chlorox The prices quoted for the nurri on the net seem to show a price cinsiderably below 5200 euros for all versioms of the nurri leva anywhere in the world through dealers
Yes, but the same is valid for the ACS, where (unlike in the UK) it has decided to make the machine available also through dealers rather than only direct-to-consumer: for example (IIRC), it’s available in Germany and Poland for prices that are comparable with the Nurri, a bit over €4000.
chlorox the direct to cinsumer model seems to lower the price in UK for some reason
A dealer has costs to stock and distribute anything, and needs to make a profit on top. Will they add value over and above that additional cost to the consumer? Possibly - as you point out, for example, there may be ‘peace of mind’ and ‘speed of service’ elements - which some people may value more than others (you, for example, seem to value them more than I do). But expecting that something distributed through a dealer network will have a lower price than something sold direct is a misplaced expectation.
chlorox What I was trying to point out is that all of the functions of the acs evo are also found in the nurri except the smart timer AFAIK - for instance while the nurri has one 3-channel PID controlling the temperatures of brew boiler, steam boiler and grouphead while the acs has three pid doing the same jobs, the point is that both machines have pid controlled and regulated temperature for all three components.
That depends on what one means by ‘function’. A temperature regulator (PID or other types) has to work within a system; the thermal parameters (apart from target temperature) of an insulated boiler full of water are not the same as those of a brass-and-steel group in open air. If you want to go into the systems control aspects of it, happy to do so, but maybe not on the forum?
The 3 PIDs of the ACS work best - i.e. maintain stable temperatures in the group and the boilers - with rather different parameters; with the Nurri, that choice isn’t there. Does it result in comparable temperature stability? It’s possible. It’s also possible that the Nurri performs worse in that respect.
None of the above is meant to discourage people from buying either machine - I’m simply trying to add some clarity to potentially misleading statements you made. In any case, the aspect that concerns the OP is that of mechanical safety - for which neither the Nurri nor the ACS provide.
