So, I have been reading loads and when it comes to making a decision I am undecided. Currently have a bean to cup and now I want my first real espresso machine, I do only drink milk coffees just now and as I am WFH it can be around 4 a day. On the odd occasion my wife would ask me to make her a weaker coffee. I have gone from Sage DB, ACS minima, Lelit Mara x and the Lelit Elizabeth. I am now considering the Lelit Bianca as it seems the best value for money and I shouldn't have the need to upgrade at a later stage. I am also looking to pair this with the Eureka oro. Is this a good choice as I am going way over budget and what else would I need to buy? Thanks

@"Duc959"#p1092 I think it's an excellent choice…spending a little more now, if you feel you won't need to upgrade later, is cheaper overall.. The prosumer stuff you have mentioned, starting with the ACS Minima thru to the Lelit Bianca are all great prosumer machines. I have all of them and do rate the Bianca for the refinement and pleasure of use and it competes strongly for value in that part of the prosumer market. The best bang for your buck at the higher end of the prosumer market. I think Bianca comes with most of what you need apart from thin scales and a milk jug.

@"DavecUK"#p1093 Thanks Dave, I have watched all your reviews and appreciate your efforts. I do see where Lelit have cut back on costs with the bianca, but as you say its the best value for money.

I actually have the prototype of the original Bianca and about 1 year ago, the preproduction unit of the Bianca they have recently released. Compared to the one I have reviewed, there have been some subtle but nice changes to software and a few other bits. I never did a review for it, because it was sent to me for engineering review/feedback to Lelit directly. The costs have been kept down, but I don't think it affects the quality and you get an awful lot of function for the money.

Has anyone got a Profitec 700, how does this compare to the Bianca?

Can anyone recommend where to buy some accessories?

Depends what you need. Check out Black Cat Coffee.

Don't be afraid to just jump right in to more expensive machines if you can afford to. In addition to points above, I'd add that it's nice not to have to learn the various foibles that normally accompany cheaper equipment, to the detriment of getting to grips with the coffee making. It's a real luxury to have that element of consistency with your gear and be certain that's it's definitely you doing it all wrong ;-)

I have been looking at the Bianca too- seems like a good option but will have to sell the 2 machines I have first otherwise I will not be popular…. Out of interest does anyone know if the classified section of the forum is operating? There currently doesn't seem to be anything there. I have a feeling I might be wanting to put some of my kit in there soon!!

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Help me decide...

DavecUK

It’s in the advanced LCC settings video I did for the Private playlist for Bella Barista, link in your guide. If it’s like it was when I looked at the machine, my settings were going to be the ones used as the standard factory reset settings…I am not sure if that is still the case with the later models like the one you have now. This is because there have been specific program upgrades.

I do have the pre production version of the model that’s just been released, but I last set up all the PID stuff on it a year ago, can’t remember what the values are. I will try and get some time over the next week to recommission it and note them down.

Duc959

@DavecUK I never got a guide from them, my pid settings and pressure appear to be correct as per your guide.

DavecUK

If you tell me what they are without resetting your machine accidentally (Gicars little joke)…it might help me remember or identify any values you could tweak.

Duc959

@DavecUK I’ve turned it off now, been a long hard day doing chores around the house and still waiting for my scale to arrive.

From memory, 94deg for brew and 125deg for steam and the pressure is at 10bar when using blanking disc. Will figure out how to get into the advanced menu tomorrow. Thanks for your help.

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