Just wanted to give my opinions on the new DF64P. I have been using it for a few weeks but haven’t seen much talk on the forums or many reviews tbh.
- Looks great imo. I like the wood accents and the Matt black finish
- build quality feels great, very sturdy and well put together out of the box
- retention is superb. I do use RDT and bellows but check the pictures below to see how little retention there was after a few kilos had been through the grinder
- speed of grind and noise (when comparing to my previous grinder)
- plenty of accessories including dose cup, brush, dose funnel plus spare rubber grips for portafilter holder
- the adjustment isn’t good. It doesn’t feel nice to adjust and I never feel confident when making an adjustment to dial in. Also, why, why, why not have the small little adjustment lever slightly longer so that it is closer to the numbers and in a pointed shape rather than square.
- you need to use RDT and bellows
- even with RDT and bellows you will get some static and loose grounds stuck on the grinder
- anti popcorning accessory is separate from the bellows and adds another 7-8cm in height if fitted
- dosing cup is cheap plastic. Metal would have been better
- portafilter slips out of holder if left unattended
Overall I really enjoy using the grinder. I’ve always steered clear of grinders that require bellows as they always look ugly and out of place almost like and after thought, but honestly I think the bellows look ok with this grinder and I enjoy using them too. Plus with such a low retention when using them it’s win win. It’s also nice to try another flat burr grinder again as most of my previous grinders have been conical burr sets and I didn’t fancy trying another Mignon as I am not to keen on them. I think the only real annoyance is the grind size adjustment, I know the original DF64 community were great at coming up with solutions to issues with the grinders so maybe that is one they will solve one day. Overall I’d recommend the grinder to anyone looking for an espresso based grinder.