John_Yossarian I’m not using the plastic spouts I prefer a bottomless portafilter especially with the limited clearance on the Micra beneath the group head. However, I don’t have an issue with the plastic spouts, I never understood the backlash towards them.

      I think it was designed that way having in mind most people will use it bottomless.

      But having the attachment around is useful when you want to split a shot or whatever.

      People that prefer spouted all the time will probably go ahead and buy another portafilter.

      Definitely a non-issue if you’re using the bottomless.

      I think people just thought it was a shame to resort to plastic as LM’s portafilters are so brilliantly crafted in polished stainless (rather than chromed brass).

      I’d suspect the number of people using the spouts is very low anyway, as you say, especially with the reduced clearance on the Micra.

      Petre My calculations, as it turned out wrong, were at the brew boiler, 40 mls leaving at ca. 105 deg C and 40 mls entering at around 20 deg C (if not plumbed in, where it should be 10-15 deg C). As it turns out the Micra has a supply from the steam boiler at 85 deg C so the drop in the brew boiler is not significant.

      I agree with your estimation. On my V when I pull a shot the temp in the brew boiler PID keeps at 94 or 95 for the shot, ca. 40-45 secs, and 10 secs later would drop to 93-92 which takes around 30 seconds to be up to 94/95.

      EDIT: It has 10 deg C offset

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        KyleT I suspected that much 😀 that you would be using the bottomless one.

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          Ernie1 I did not know it was 170 ml, I thought they were identical. But you do not seem to have issues with temp stability as Mini’s temperature stability is legendary.

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            KyleT Do you think they had to go to Nisan and ask for permission? 😀

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              23 days later

              KyleT So its been about a month - hows it going with the micra ?

              Its still the top of my want list - even when I have come across minis on the used market - i think the smaller size just works better in a kitchen.

              Any issues or dislikes - or are you just pulling great shots and its just works 👍

                  MattH going very well, it’s a joy to use with superb stability and consistency. The only things I could knock it for are the short steam wand which can make it tricky to steam milk sometimes and a lack of a shot timer. But I knew about these things before purchasing and they aren’t the end of the world.

                      I did wonder about the steam arm as it’s not exactly cavernous under the group of the Mini so it must be pretty tight on the Micra!

                      Also little tip for the shot timer (not limited to any particular machine)… a watch! After I sold the Bianca I realised I’d been wearing a ‘shot timer’ on my wrist all along!

                      a month later

                      KyleT Just been rereading this thread - I also believe there is a shot timer in the LM app - not sure if you have ever used it ?

                        Saw someone did the needle mod to a micra

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                          Not sure , I thought it was so you could change the flow, but not on the go

                          Decent De1pro v1.45 - Niche Duo - Niche Zero - Decent is the best machine ever made -

                          Yeah it adds Slayer style preinfusion control to the paddle without removing the normal paddle functionality.

                          Each to their own but if I was keen to have flow control I’d probably go for a GS3. The Lineas are so incredibly well put together the last thing I’d want to do is screw that that up by modding it.

                          On the shot timer I’ve seen one somewhere where there’s a little LCD built in to a modified paddle. Probably the neatest way of doing it if you’re desperate for a timer.

                            Plus it’s very expensive to mod isn’t it

                            Decent De1pro v1.45 - Niche Duo - Niche Zero - Decent is the best machine ever made -

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                              Yeah like £500 I think. You can part it out yourself for less I think but not much less.

                              Then £3k for a new Micra when you balls it up.

                                Ernie1 On the shot timer I’ve seen one somewhere where there’s a little LCD built in to a modified paddle. Probably the neatest way of doing it if you’re desperate for a timer.

                                I will refrain from commenting about the lack of this feature on such an expensive machine…I do remember the Mercedes days when a radio was extra….other cars were coming with radio cassettes and I even think CD players. My Vauxhall Omega had a 6 disk changer in the boot…

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