MediumRoastSteam If you’ve been using RO water, then don’t bother with vinegar, as those are definitely not calcium deposits or marks.

This would be correct….at this point I am at a loss to know what those marks might be?

    DavecUK

    Well, I’ve cleaned the h*ll out of the panel this morning and those marks remain. Here’s a test for anyone able to do so …. breathe on the front panel, see what deficiencies are visible, polish off. Mine still shows all defects but the fact that they are visible when I breathe on them seems to contradict them being under the lacquer despite the lacquer being squeaky clean now. How would a degrease react I wonder?

    Can I just add that these marks are holographic. Move to the extreme sides of the panel and it looks very flush and spotless. Move face on, as in daily use and its just ‘mottled’. Very apparent and just wrong. Hope BB can come up with a fix. Anyone ‘skinned’ a Lelit panel? Sacrilegious I know, but just thinking ahead.

      skylark that they are visible when I breathe on them seems to contradict them being under the lacquer despite the lacquer being squeaky clean now. How would a degrease react I wonder?

      There is no lacquer on the panel that I am aware of?

        DavecUK

        Surely if no lacquer then there would be a distinct feel to the, I’m calling it discolouration? Feels as smooth as the proverbial baby’s ….

        do they clear powder coat the shell?

        Decent De1pro v1.45 - Niche Duo - Niche Zero - Decent is the best machine ever made -

          The clay cleaner I mentioned above takes my brushed stainless bbq that is never covered back to show room and removes tiny rust and other stains that have sat in the sun and rain for weeks and months.
          If it’s really that bad, I’d try that, maybe a test panel first.
          However if it’s lacquered or coated , rather than brushed, then it will remove that. Although then you have a shiny surface that you can keep clean, just a different finish from before.
          Sounds like you can’t make it worse though

            simonc The clay cleaner I mentioned above takes my brushed stainless bbq that is never covered back to show room and removes tiny rust and other stains that have sat in the sun and rain for weeks and months.

            Love to try this on my neglected BBQ. Can you post a link to this stuff.

              simonc I kind of love websites like that.

              If it can clean as quickly and as easily as that they can take my money gladly.

              I’ll also be sure to use the same pot for both my alloy wheels, bathroom taps and coffee machine! 🤣

              Seriously though, I reckon its worth a punt. Spent more on less in my life.

                simonc does the presence of quartz as ingredient mean it’s abrasive?

                Yup!

                Oops didn’t think about that - sorry mate. Want one for your oven, lol?

                Seeing that clay cleaner has made me wonder whether a clay bar (for car detailing) would work. A clay bar isn’t abrasive but does work incredibly well at removing all contamination from car paintwork.

                  Dusk A clay bar isn’t abrasive

                  Clay bar’s are abrasive.

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