This is mostly a question for my curiosity. They are not a same league, Vesuvius is both bigger, significantly more expensive (where I live at least), has (much) better build quality (As per @"DavecUK"#1 ). the pressure profile is more repeatable but can't be changed on the fly as the flow profile on Bianca - which is significantly cheaper, quite smaller, and moveable tank. it is also much more popular and help can be easy to come by. So given that you are budget aware, and would like to pay for the best value on the $, which one would you buy?

@"delta76"#p51563 With the comment that a direct purchase from ACS most likely would be cheaper.

@"John_Yossarian"#p51564 yeah I am in contact with them, yet to hear back but we'll see. I guess you meant "cheaper" than 3300 EUR, not cheaper than Bianca (that'd be insane)? How will warranty be handled then? if you run into the problem you ask them for guidance/parts, or do you have to send it back? How long is warranty also?

2yr parts warranty, so you will have to be prepared to get your hands dirty should you need to do so

@"Cuprajake"#p51570 that is not so bad I guess. I'm not very handy but can fix some simple things. not having to send it back is a plus actually.

As an alternative option; If you’re in the UK there’s a few Linea Minis on eBay for less than £3k currently. One of which says ‘barely used/near mint’ which means it might still have warranty. Not that you’ll probably need it. Spending £3k, that’s where my money would go in a heartbeat but if you’re dead set on profiling then the Bianca is an incredibly solid choice for under two grand. It’s not ‘badly’ built by any means, it’s only really an issue when compared directly to other machines in terms of build.

@"Ernie1"#p51572 sadly not in UK. and for some reason LM does not have that wow feeling for me. I have no doubt it is a stellar espresso machine, just the look is not appealing to me

@"delta76"#p51573 It’s not for everyone! Good luck with whichever you decide!

The Vesuvius makes an incredible second hand buy.. they do come up from time to time!

@"Grahamsphillips"#p51634 sadly where I live a good second hand espresso machine is hard to come by. When one shows up they are not even that good deal. Let alone something not so popular as this one. It seems i have no better option than Bianca v3. The wise men have spoken

I’m 2 1/2 years into ownership of my Bianca without an issue. I’m not sure what bit of it could have been built better 🤷 Would have absolutely no reservations in recommending it to anyone. ( edited for typo )

Lelit Bianca v3 vs ACS Vesuvius v10

DavecUK

delta76 That is correct, direct only in UK.

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