Profitec Pro 500 (pre PID) for sale £600

Dumnorix

I am selling my Profitec Pro 500 which I have owned since August 2018. It was originally purchased from Bella Barista in November 2017. This is a fantastic HX machine- only very short cooling flushes seem to be needed meaning not too much water is wasted. It has had very light use and hasn’t really been used over the last 18 months. I have descaled it once about 6 months after purchase and only ever used Waitrose Lockhills water.
I’m asking £600- a Rocket Appartamento (similar spec) sold recently on Ebay for £820 so hopefully this will be seen as reasonable.
I’m also selling a Mazzer Major Electronic grinder- you can have both items if bought together as part of the same sale for £1000 (as opposed to £1100 if purchased separately).
I’m in Somerset but would be happy to travel about 50 miles to deliver or meet someone at a motorway junction etc.

Mark-drinks-coffee

Dumnorix

Would you be willing/ able to post? (Within UK) any idea on the cost? Thanks!

Mark-drinks-coffee

Dumnorix

Hi Alistair, sorry, couple of (hopefully final!) questions from me, assuming it’s still available!

I think you said you have only ever used bottled water in the machine? So I assume no signs of any scaling/ corrosion? Is there any signs of anything that might need replacing soon?

I also think you said you’ve not had it serviced (outside your own regular care/ maintenance)? Has anything ever needed replacing/ repairing? Did you ever happen to get a price for how much a service would be?

EDIT: sorry, one additional question, what else (if anything!) is included? i.e. PF’s, baskets etc?

Thanks - really appreciate your patience and humouring me!

Dumnorix

In theory yes- I will see what I can find out. Whereabouts are you?

Mark-drinks-coffee

Dumnorix

great thanks - North West, near Manchester

Dumnorix

I have just looked up posting a 25kg parcel using Parcel force 48 hour service- I inputted my Auntie’s address who lives in Buxton in Derbyshire, so probably not a million miles from you! Cost has come out about £60- if you’re interested in the machine I would be happy to halve that cost and I would also meet the cost of the packaging I would need to purchase to get it to you safely.

Mark-drinks-coffee

Dumnorix if you’re interested in the machine I would be happy to halve that cost and I would also meet the cost of the packaging I would need to purchase to get it to you safely.

Great thank you and very generous. I’m new to all this and would be my first machine so just want to do some research to see if this is the right one for me!

Dumnorix

Hi again. Sorry to be a pain- I think according to forum rules (let me know if I’m wrong Dave) you have to definitely say you are going to buy before we go to private messaging. I didn’t want to assume you had made up your mind for certain!

MediumRoastSteam

Dumnorix according to forum rules (let me know if I’m wrong Dave) you have to definitely say you are going to buy before we go to private messaging.

I’ll let @DavecUK clarify on that. But that was a rule of CFUK. I’m not sure it applies here.

Mark-drinks-coffee

Dumnorix I think according to forum rules (let me know if I’m wrong Dave) you have to definitely say you are going to buy before we go to private messaging.

Ah yes sorry, definitely didn’t mean to seem like I was trying to avoid anything, just didn’t want to keep pestering with questions on here! Absolutely happy to make any offer public on here (or whatever is appropriate) before private messaging.

I guess just a few follow up questions/ requests. Firstly what is the reason for selling (if you don’t mind me asking!) and secondly as I won’t be able to see the machine given the distance, would you mind posting a few videos of pulling a shot, the group head running without a PF, steam wand and water outlet running, please? Finally, do you have the original manual?

MediumRoastSteam

Mark-drinks-coffee

You can. Top right, there’s an icon next to the bell.

Mark-drinks-coffee

MediumRoastSteam You can. Top right, there’s an icon next to the bell.

Ah, knew it would be a feature and just my incompetence! Thanks!

Dumnorix

It says ‘offers must be made and accepted/ rejected in the thread’ when I checked just now. I just want to make sure I’m getting it right!

Dumnorix

Mark-drinks-coffee
No problem at all- I am happy to answer all questions. I originally bought it as E61 machines like this are very easy to maintain (unlike my Sage Dual Boiler!) , and at the time I had every intention of taking the machine apart, learning about its inner workings and learning how to service it. However, that never happened as I got busier at work, so it has been idle for a while now and I thought it would be better off being loved by someone! To be very honest with you, although the shots it produces are very good, with a pressure stat you can’t control the temperature at the group head as well as you can with a machine with a PID, and as I already had a machine with slightly better temperature control I ended up preferring that. Have probably talked you out of the purchase now (!), but wanted to be totally transparent with you. In any case I would be silly not to, as I have posted about this elsewhere on the forum so you may well read it anyway.
If you feed it decent water, you have a good burr grinder and use decent artisan coffee from a reputable roaster (sorry if all that is obvious to you but not sure what your prior experience is) I think it would still make a very good first machine. I know others are also following this thread so please chime in with anything you think I have forgotten as that way you will have as much info as possible. I will fire up the machine now and do the videos that you requested.

DavecUK

Dumnorix with a pressure stat you can’t control the temperature at the group head as well as you can with a machine with a PID

Although that might be true in the basest sense, the addition of a coffee sensor group head thermometer can help a lot in that!

Mark-drinks-coffee

Dumnorix

Thanks - really appreciate the honesty reply! I’m less worried about being able to change/ control temperature as long as it is consistent enough to produce repeatable shots of a quality that I enjoy. My understanding is that with a consistent processes, you should be able to get a consistent temp with an HX.

Dumnorix Have probably talked you out of the purchase now (!), but wanted to be totally transparent with you.

Yeah maybe we need to talk about the price now you’ve put me off!! 🤣

Mark-drinks-coffee

DavecUK the addition of a coffee sensor group head thermometer can help a lot in that!

I’m assuming (perhaps wrongly!) that the addition of a group head thermometer and a consistent warm up/ flushing routine can ensure consistent temperatures for shots? Even if not quite as controllable as a PID would be.

Dumnorix

I have taken the videos but am having trouble uploading once again- I will keep trying.

DavecUK

Dumnorix

Videos have to be uploaded to YouTube, then paste the link

Dumnorix

I am attempting to use Google Drive-

Not sure if it will work!

Mark-drinks-coffee

Dumnorix

Video’s worked perfect thank you! Let me have a final think (and check on sign off from the Mrs 🙊) and I’ll get back to you!