Bianca v3 temps

Barjee

Hi All,

New here, have been reading through some of the tests done on a the bianca v3 and wondering if anyone has managed to do any temp testing with a scace on the newest versions? i’m seeing varying results on forums and in videos regarding the set target temp and actual temp, i’m in the UK and have my PID set up as per Daves recommended settings but im curious if setting the temp to 93 actually gets me that temperature.

delta76

you can always use the flash boiling method to calibrate the temp. I always adjust temp by taste so as long as I get a balanced taste, it does not really matter if it is actually 93* or slightly off

Barjee

delta76 Yeah probably going to do this, i usually adjust temp as my last variable, just feel like it will be easier to have peace of mind what the temp actually is.

Cuprajake

lance has a vid on it where its done with the pesado version of a scace,

have a look

DavecUK

Cuprajake Lance has a vid on it where its done with the pesado version of a scace,

The only caution is whether it’s done correctly or not for a home users work patterns…it takes me 3 days or more to do a full temperature series on a machine, for all the different use cases to come up with a best setting for the mid point of the espresso range.

Barjee

Cuprajake His video is the reason i’m asking, i’m wondering if his offset is set incorrectly somehow, he says to get 93 you need to set the machine to 98, just doesn’t seem right to me =/

Cuprajake

sure these guys do too

great channel that

Cuprajake

Barjee probably

I personally don’t believe he has the knowledge he shows, I’ve seen multiple times that’s info has been off and he’s been in my dm’s more than one e picking my brains for info, only to ghost.

I know from using the V3 it wasn’t as temp stable as the Evo 1 it replaced, but they are very stable.

delta76

Barjee by the test of kaffeemacher which Jake linked above, Bianca v3 has very good temp stability, only with caveats if you leave the machine idle for too long (the temp drop at 1-2s last second of the shot, which, according to @DavecUK, can be fixed by tuning PID but I usually just pull an empty shot).

I have never had to set my machine to anything more than 96C (and only had to do so with very very light roast). With medium, 93-94 is the right spot so the default setting seems to be pretty accurate to me. If you read the Bianca v3 thread, I wrote that I suspected Lance did something wrong without knowing if he had to set it to 98C. Maybe he messed up the offset setting.

Barjee

Cuprajake Well, i commented on his video and he said that lelit were able to recreate his results and are working on a “fix” with him, he was quite defensive tbh, all i was doing was asking a question and he almost seemed offended =/

i don’t know how much i believe because he seems to be the only one getting such wild temperature readings, granted i’ve only been able to find 3 different videos with scace tests but they are getting 1-2 degrees off set temp, i contacted lelit and they said to get around this, set the EC to 13 in the technical menu obviously this will vary from machine and location.

DavecUK

delta76 This is what I mean about temperature testing, that chart in no way reflects real world home use. Sadly the WBC protocols are used by manufacturers who do actually test their machines and is often whey their PID settings are not great at all.

Think about how machines are used at home….

delta76

DavecUK yeah I know - we talked about it before. I just was backing up my point is that Bianca easily hits the target temp without problems. Setting it to 98C to hit 93C target temp is quite absurd

DavecUK

delta76 Setting it to 98C to hit 93C target temp is quite absurd

Yes, that would be correct.