Hi all, I need some help balancing out the pros and cons with the above grinders! It people have experience with both that would be great or experience or thoughts on 64mm vs 83mm burrs too. I've only had a handful of grinders with the latest being a niche zero. Thanks 👍

@"dang2484"#p70062 Apart from the flat v conical and 63/4/5 v 83 mm argument, you may like to consider the burrs themselves. I have no experience with the DF range but I know a few people who have bought them then been remarkably quiet about them. The first thing others do, is swop the Chinese burrs out for SSP burrs then all seems well

@"dfk41"#p70063 Cheers for your thoughts. It was a point and being more expensive for 83mm, wouldn't be something if be doing straight away but could with the df64v. I think as long as they made good enough espresso to start with, I could factor in an upgrade down the line.

@"dang2484"#p70064 Surely the cheaper option is your only choice considering this? 🤔

@"JimmyP"#p70080 not if the 83 makes considerably better espresso out the gate! 😉

@"dang2484"#p70090 does it though? Don't forget the under the counter T64 from Bella Barista!

@"DavecUK"#p70094 I did read your thread and it looked good. I can't see it coming up on their website too check it out!

@"dang2484"#p70095 Because it's under the counter, you need to call them.

@"DavecUK"#p70096 I thought I read it was going up on the website as the thread was a while a go. I'll give them a call tomorrow then! 👍

@"dang2484"#p70097 Sadly a lot goes on behind the scenes of the coffee industry…which most people are completely unaware of. Part of the reason why I am not particularly enamoured by the current crop of "influencers"

@"dang2484"#p70090 Unlikely I reckon. They’re selling really cheap secondhand 🤷♂️

Df64v or df83v

dfk41

dang2484 dang, you will not get a better grinder from BB than the solo T64 with SSP burrs……that is a statement rather than an opinion! You seem to be suggesting that you are being shoehorned into the DF range…..nope……I have a Solo, not that that means anything matey. Dave probably will not chip in but he tested this grinder, came up with a couple of alterations and the idea of putting in SSP burrs and all at a fantastic price…..

Adrianmsmith

dfk41

@dang2484

Just to say that for once I totally agree with David 😎🤭😚😁🤫 and for that matter, Dave.

I am not sure of the value of the vouchers that you have, but if it’s in the region of the price of the t64 I would say just do it….

dang2484

All ordered thanks guys, and the last one let too!! So was good timing! BB fantastic in sorting it out and shipped out today as well, bonus! 😁

MediumRoastSteam

dang2484 All ordered thanks guys, and the last one let too

I wonder if they will order more.

Adrianmsmith

@dang2484

When mine came the grub screw holding the alternative adjustment collar was not tight and the collar was loose.

Bonus as such as i removed it and there were no marks where the grub screw should have been tightened.

I never fitted it as zero was within a chirp of zero. Saved it just in case i ever swapped out the burrs.

Looked better without it imho but beauty is in the eye of the beholder so im constantly reminded!!

Good luck.

BTW Suggested starting point is 15 ish if you are grinding for espresso.

dang2484

Adrianmsmith cheers, I’ll keep that in mind when it arrives. Thanks for the help 👍

DavecUK

MediumRoastSteam I wonder if they will order more.

I believe they have/will

dang2484

Just to close the thread, but arrived, seasoned already and pulling some great shots! Cheers all for the help 👍

Adrianmsmith

dang2484

Did you try the qc fail

I did

It definately failed😋

Good to hear you are liking it already.

dang2484

Adrianmsmith haha, you’re braver than me, the aroma was quite……interesting! 😂

dutchy101

Hope you enjoy the T64. As an owner of one, I think you’ve made a great choice

dang2484

dutchy101 cheers mate, reassuring to know! 👍

M5Sime

A bit late now as the purchase has been made, but just to counter that I got the DF83 mk2 to replace (see long thread from me on here) an Olympia grinder. Have been very happy with it. Best flavour I have had from my previous two grinders. It’s quite brutish yet consistent. Only niggle is we got the white one and using the bellows means constant coffee bits on the counter and static attached to the grinder. Otherwise - no issues and tasty coffee.

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