Plumbing in filters (non RO)

M5Sime For myself, then I did not plumb in my Evo. I believe the new rotary pumped ones are pretty silent. The whole point of regulating the water going in, is that it is much easier to do that than have the hassles associated with a descale. Therefore I went with a desktop RO system. Initially using the Osmio Zero then after several years use switching to a Waterdrop K19 RO system

Adrianmsmith what do you store in the cupboard that houses the system then?

dfk41 what do you store in the cupboard that houses the system then?

The system isnt housed in the cupboards?

Its in the plinth space below the cupboard. many uk kitchens actually waste this space or use it to house mice etc 🤪🫣🤓

theres a lot of wasted space in modern kitchens. A “cavity” behind the cupboards ideal for feed and waste pipes to run and a large space below the cupboards with easy access by removing the plinths which in general are held in place by spring clips attaching to the cupboard feel.

Anyway, no loss of any cupboard space……

M5Sime

I couldn’t find much info.

Betta Barista recommended BWT as they sold them.

Rinaldos recommended the everpure and as i got it along with the synchronika from them at a very good price i went with it.

Being Honest i would assume theres little to pick between them of the similar system from Brita .

Ive had replacement filters from rinaldos, filter flair, redber and Lockhart . plenty of choice.

Its the only sysyem I’ve tried so cant compare im afraid

I do completely agree that a plumbed system is much better, we have an eagle one prima and whenever we take it somewhere and we don’t have it plumbed in it is just so much worse to use. As far as systems go it does also depend on how hard your water is, soft water is much easier to filter without more advanced systems.

We have a BWT system but that is because we already had the setup for it and the under counter space is not an issue

InfamousTuba

Ive not read up on the BWT but the claris has a bypass setting you set when changing the cartridge, which is set depending on how hard your water is . This also determines the recommended life of the filter in an enclosed leaflet.

I usually change at 12 months well befor the volume life has been reached .

I think both systems and the Brita are all well respected systems.

Does the BWT need to be mounted vertically?

BWT has bypass as well but they also have different base filters for hard water and for very soft water (bestmax or bestmin) so they are quite flexible. The smallest capacity is 750L before it needs changed

They can be mounted horizontally as well but I always see them mounted vertically everywhere

Coffee shops often use commercial filter systems, but I bet unless it is RO based they still get an annual service that includes a descale. I used to run a Bestmax filter and yes, it made life easy but the Mark One Evo does not have drain taps on the boilers so it was cheaper and easier for me (despite Adrians enthusing!) to guarantee no scale with RO than run the risk of scale build up with a non RO filter system. Ask yourself what your main constraint is and deal with it. If you main constraint is to not have the onerous task of filling your coffee machine then go for a filter system. If your main constraint is to guarantee no scale go for RO. What is the water quality like in your area as a starting point?

dfk41

You will be pleased to know, I agree 😎

Also, yes, im putting a lot of faith in that filter.

Out water is not as bad as some from the tap and have never had any scale in the kettle. All we feed that with is a brita maxtra cartridge jug. Cartridge is changed when its been flashing a while but realistically 11 cartridges a year.

Not very scientific, but, given the state of the kettle and the fact the claris ultra is of far better quality than the maxtra, im relatively happy im safe.

This was the state of the hot water offtake from the steam boiler a few weeks back. 🤞🏻🤞🏻

M5Sime I found a Thames Water detailed breakdown for my water that I need to verify. We don’t drink it ever today. Sparking mineral water and Volvic for coffee and rare tea. Much nicer to taste. I’m going to get some test strips and a TDS meter and do some research myself.

Thames water says

I would go straight to RO, your hardness will be very high.

Commercially we don’t descale any of our machines because the filters are changed regularly and the water is tested by our engineers. It is also a benefit of living in a city with very soft water, the filters don’t need to do as much work