Hi all,

How often do you find stones or foreign objects in your coffee?

Just went to brew a late evening coffee and spotted a stone in my dose of beans, thankfully I saw it before allowing it to destroy my Ode burrs.

Would you say anything to the roaster? Or is this seen as something out of their control and I should just forget it and move on?

Thanks

I’d probably move on if no damage to the burrs. You could always try the non confrontational email approach though where you complement them on their brand and say you are just making them aware incase it is something they need to look into. I bet they’ll send you a free bag of beans for this.

I used to do something similar when I moved every year as a student many moons ago. I would send an email to hagandaz and Ben and Jerry’s to make then aware of an air bubble that I had invented in my ice cream. Two vouchers posted out to me every time 💪. They ask for serial numbers now I think when writing to them but I doubt that’s because of me 😂

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I would definitely get in touch and let them know, depending on their packing setup it might get them to buy a destoner or check that it is functioning properly. Also most roasters will happily send a replacement bag anyway so it can be worth reaching out

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Yeah there was no harm done thankfully, it’s a big roaster so I would hope it’s a one off that’s made it’s way through their system. Which I assume includes ways of reducing the chances of dense objects such as stones getting into bagged coffee

I’ll let them know incase they need to double check the functionality of any kit they use to remove FOD!

    Sometimes even if they have a destoner, should the density of the object be low, it can still go up with the coffee e.g. if that’s a light chalky stone. It’s more common with natural processed coffees and often comes from the drying patios.

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    Tal did they offer anything g in return?

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    Hey, yeh they sorted it for me.

    They looked into it and offered me a complimentary bag of coffee or refund for my trouble.

    I opted for the replacement coffee option.

    Is it a great thing to deal with? Nope, but considering what coffee goes through from tree to demitasse it’s understandable. For every batch I do (home use) from the time the green comes out of the bag and roasted/poured into the grinder I look at it/sift 5-6 times to be sure no debris is present. For those buying roasted it’s a good idea to inspect closely before being tossed in the grinder. A minute of effort is far better than damaged burrs and the time involved with getting that sorted.

    Will anyone actually admit to having damaged burrs by grinding a foreign object? Personally, I think it is more likely to be ‘one of those accepted stories’. All the debris I have seen over the years look like your average grinder would munch them. Remember when @Cuprajake set the trend by grinding green beans in his Duo?

    I did find this in a recent batch of coffee……looks to me like a chicken bone!


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      dfk41 I remember finding a small stone just once in the last 4 years. I don’t check for stones at all, as they never bothered me. :-)

        Found the first one the other day. Suppose coffee rosters have a disclaimer somewhere that they are nor responsible for your coffee grinder.

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        I found a small stone in my beans the other week. It managed to evade hand sorting and bagging of 5kg batches, and not to fall through the holes in the roasting drum and cooling tray. The only reason I found it was I thought it was a quaker.

          think i may have had one in all the years, ive had bad beans and quakers more often

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          (the stone reached the grinder and blocked it, fortunately without damage to the burrs)

          It didn’t happen to me, but I just ordered this coffee from the same roaster.

          The coffee is very good, but these incidents make me be more careful about the coffee beans that goes into the grinder. I use a coffee spoon for dosing, which holds about 9 grams of coffee beans.

          It will involve additional labor, sorting, or I could be relaxed considering the roaster’s response:

          I’m glad there is no problem with the grinder and I’m sorry for the inconvenience. As I’ve mentioned on other occasions, there is an automatic passage of all roasted coffees through the destoner, it is directly connected to the oven. However, some pebbles can be a porous concrete and sometimes have similar densities to the beans, visually it seems to be that “type” of pebble.

          I have noticed over time that there is no 100% success rate for the destoner, although it is an “original” Loring, we still have an elevator with a destoner at the packaging plant, but not all coffees go through there, only those in large volumes. We sometimes find small pebbles there that “escaped” the first destoner.

          Your coffee was probably packaged manually and if it passed the destoner, it did not have another filter. What we can do, in case there are problems with the burrs, is to solve that cost. Fortunately, we have not had situations of this kind with home consumers yet, but we are 100% open to remedying any type of inconvenience caused by experiences like this.

          As future plans, we may be able to implement a 3-step sorting system in the near future, it will probably decrease the incidence even more, but as I mentioned above, you can count on me and my colleagues to remedy a more special situation, if it arises.

            odor4fun I just ordered this coffee from the same roaster.

            Salutare, now I’m curious. Which roaster/coffee is that?

            Lelit Elizabeth, La Pavoni, Niche Duo, Gene Cafe roaster