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Might be a stupid post but I’m going to post it anyway.

I was in my local coffee shop the other day where I get most of my beans and they hadn’t had a new delivery so the selection was sparse. Anyway, their house espresso which I’m not particularly fond of is a blend of 60/40. If I were to purchase a bag and pick 10 beans out at random it is very unlikely that I’ll be picking 6 of one bean and 4 of the other so why are blend bags so popular? Surely it should be sold in separate bags so you can accurately measure the intended ratio accurately?

It’s quiet at work so I’ve had too much time to think about this today but does this not seem odd to you guys considering the amount of money people spend on scales ect to achieve accuracy to the tenth of a gram?

Also, does anyone here do their own blends?

  • MWJB replied to this.

    EddieMoonshine You can’t make a cup of coffee with 10 beans, as you use more beans the odds of getting a decent mix ratio go up. You would mix by weight anyway (little Ethiopian beans may weigh much less each than larger Pacamara/Maragogype for example).

    If both beans are OK taste-wise, it doesn’t really matter if there is a slight bias toward one or the other. If one bean is not to your liking, don’t buy the blend.

      MWJB

      I was just using the ten beans as an easy example but. The last coffee I had was roughly 6 beans per gram so an 18 g standard dose would be roughly 108 beans. So rounding up and down that would be 65 of one bean and 43 of the other. I don’t even really know what my point is but it just struck me a rather comical how the coffee community generally obsesses over microns of grind sizes and slight taste changes but blends never get a mention. I get that roast levels may play a part because if I were to burn ( dark roast) a slice of hovis, Warburton’s and kings mill then they would all taste the same but a normal toast (medium -light) would all taste very different to each other.

      • MWJB replied to this.

        EddieMoonshine I don’t even really know what my point is but it just struck me a rather comical how the coffee community generally obsesses over microns of grind sizes and slight taste changes but blends never get a mention. I get that roast levels may play a part because if I were to burn ( dark roast) a slice of hovis, Warburton’s and kings mill then they would all taste the same but a normal toast (medium -light) would all taste very different to each other.

        Microns are just the most practical measurement for bean particles, obsessing over them or not, that’s just the reality. Hundredths of a mm would probably be enough for a given brew method/grinder, but measurement tools are normally calibrated to micron resolution. Of course, if you want to use thousandths, or ten thousandths of an inch, then knock yourself out :-)

        Even using the same grind size, the same beans, there are usually differences from one cup to the next, because we are brewing tiny amounts and therre is always natural variance. After a point, natural variance slips into generic & easily identified (& fixed) brewing malfunctions. Identifying & correcting these is the point of measurement & control, not so much to nail identical taste cup to cup.

        Roast level is a preference, dark roasts can be less objectionable when under-extracted, as opposed to tart/sharp light/medium espresso, but roast level does not offer a silver bullet regarding typical malfunctions.

        Blend and origin are also a preference - I measure most of my brews, but it’s pretty clear to me that certain origins (Colombia, Rwanda, Kenya) are much more likely to meet my preference, compared to some others (though I have had the odd really good bag from most origins, talking here about the game of averages). No way to really fix that other than buy what you suspect you will like, to start with.

          MWJB I’m not against blends I just found it comical how they work. Machina do a nice blend called clockwork which I’ve tried before. Now theirs consist of two beans and they used to sell the component beans as separate bags. They don’t have one listed at the moment but if I were to buy both bags separately and make my own 60/40 ratio then it’s going to be bang on every time. In a hobby that relies so much on consistency it just surprises me that there is scope for so much inconsistency when it comes to these blends.

            EddieMoonshine Consistency isn’t an absolute concept, it’s a tolerance within reasonable expectation. The good thing being that if you are consistent with what you do (with similar roasts & origins that you know you like), the result in the cup should fall within a reasonable range. Bad/indifferent/major malfunction cups should be rare, unless you are dialling in a new grinder/method.

            Most of your consistency, with regards to preference, should happen at the point you check out your purchase.

              MWJB “consistency isn’t an absolute concept, it’s a tolerance within reasonable expectation”

              Love this, this needs to be on a t-shirt 😂

              After having used tons of different coffees from many roasters then started my own roasting at home 9 yrs ago I can honestly say a quality blend can be mind blowing for espresso. Some SOs can be quite good/unique, but simply will never match the layered flavor profile a blend can do. I roast pre-blended green as I know firsthand each origin in the blend will develop at different rates and gives exactly what I look for.

              Maybe talk to the place you frequent and figure out your own blend they can throw together. Any decent roaster should accommodate that sort of thing.

              If you want to make it more optimal and consistency:

              • Mix your blend of single origin coffee beans in cup, and the required ratio (e.g.: 40/60);
              • Throw them in a single dose grinder and grind it;
              • WDT (that should mix the blend nicely);

              Enjoy :-)