Coffee beats Statins for Longevity

Adrianmsmith

Grahamsphillips Coffee is not medicine, but it is a useful contrast. Because for all-cause mortality (your risk of death) in primary prevention, coffee seems to work better than statins.

is there a difference or benefit to:
filter coffee vs
espresso coffee vs
diluted espresso coffee vs
flat white (any ratio)

how many 21g espresso + milk flat whites can i drink in a day and at what point does it swing from good for you to not so good for you

MWJB

Adrianmsmith how many 21g espresso + milk flat whites can i drink in a day and at what point does it swing from good for you to not so good for you

Can’t answer regarding ‘milk’ because milk can mean anything these days :-)

But, as stated earlier in the thread, regarding caffeine specifically, WHO suggest limiting to 300mg/day, US FDA state 400mg/day.

Best approximation for espresso, neat, from a 21g dose - Assuming only ⅔ of the caffeine is extracted in short ratio espresso (1:2-1:3) and you only drink Arabica (as Robusta can have twice the caffeine), Then 2-3cups, or anything that has a detrimental effect on your sleep (people have different tolerances to caffeine).

Diluted (with water) espresso has everything that espresso has in it, just more water. Water is generally considered beneficial to human health and is unlikely to adversely affect the drink.

Platypus

Sometimes it’s all just bad luck and despite our best efforts , beyond our control.

I remember seeing a documentary about twin men in their 50’s. The one lived in the UK and had only just survived a heart attack. He led a very unhealthy lifestyle , fried breakfasts , no exercise , overweight etc. The other twin lived an ultra healthy life in Australia , fit and active with a really health conscious diet.

When he had his heart checked because of his brothers heart attack , his heart was in no better shape than his brothers and he most probably would have followed the same outcome as his brother , from memory he had no warning signs either.

It just goes to show that the control and influence we try to have over our bodies is only one small part of a very complicated picture.

LMSC

From NHS on Vegan

https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/eat-well/how-to-eat-a-balanced-diet/the-vegan-diet/

A very interesting review of vegan intakes, though a little dated (2020). Please draw your own conclusions. :-)

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0261561420306567

Adrianmsmith

MWJB Can’t answer regarding ‘milk’ because milk can mean anything these days :-)

Yes !!

For me it means uk pasteurised semi skimmed traditional cows milk.
Organic tastes better (?)

MWJB

Adrianmsmith For me it means uk pasteurised semi skimmed traditional cows milk.

How much (before steaming) per cup and how many cups per day?

Adrianmsmith

MWJB
Will check when back home how much is half a denby mug. Circa 220 ml??
3 Per day. More at weekends!!
Doesnt aeem to stop me sleeping.

MWJB

Adrianmsmith Will check when back home how much is half a denby mug. Circa 220 ml??
3 Per day. More at weekends!!

So, 3 cups a day, let’s say 4 each on Sat & Sun = 23 cups/week, 3.3 cups/day totaling 725ml semi-skimmed milk/day average.

Your coffee alone is accounting for 8g of saturates a day, almost half the recommended intake (RI), before you consider food.

35g of carbs/day (about the same in total sugars, or about a third of daily RI for total sugars).

Basically the equivalent in saturates & carbs as 4oz of ribeye steak in a sandwich, each day. In itself, OK if you are accounting for this elsewhere in your diet.

Adrianmsmith

MWJB
That is interesting information and I have to admit I have never looked at what I eat analytically. I guess I’ll need to cut down on pizza and quarter Pounders

I just made a flat white and it turns out I am using around 180 to 200 ml of milk plus 30 ml of water from Steam (to 75 degrees uncluding warming a cold mug) and 47 g of espresso which I calibrated at 46 g in December just to show the capabilities of the Evo . It is very rare I check it.

Platypus

Adrianmsmith I just made a flat white and it turns out I am using around 180 to 200 ml

Have you ever used the Bob skimmed “yellow top”? It’s good, tastes like semi. It did make me question why it tasted so much better than the usual grey watery skimmed and apparently they add milk proteins so it is sort of processed but I’m happy to take that for improved flavour .

Adrianmsmith

Platypus Have you ever used the Bob skimmed “yellow top”? It’s good, tastes like semi.

Yes!!

When its 2 for 4 quid, otherwise cravendale when thats 2 for 4 quid!!

I also quite like semi skimmed organic but unsure if that just makes me a marketers dream customer!!

Cuprajake

think you need to man up, start drinking coffee the correct way black, not those milkshakes you call coffee

Giphy -

MWJB

The most significant change would come from switching to unsweetened soya milk.

LMSC

MWJB unsweetened soya milk.

This is 🤢🤮 for a lot of people. Haha

Adrianmsmith

MWJB
Id rather take @Cuprajake ’s suggestion!!

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