Fellow Ode Gen 2

dfk41

As already stated, I decided to trade in my Niche Zero for an Ode Gen 2. Many reasons why but that for another day. BB were actually the cheapest I could find @£279. Ordered yesterday and arrived today. Simplest thing in the world to set up! BB kindly gave me a 250 gm bag of Rejected beans. I opened them and they were black and oily so confined straight to the bin! I filled the hopper and ran one lot through. It is not particularly loud and seems to be quick. The grinder shuts off as well when completed grinding.

I leapt straight in and made a brew using Zennor Shyira. The brew I made this morning was not that fruity but a dark plum (I think) flavour but even as it cooled nothing else came through. As I write this it is cooling. First sip. Quite a bit different to the earlier brew. Not as strongly tasted but with fruit coming through 15 seconds after the sip.

I have a lot to learn including how to train my palette! I look forward to playing with the Ode. One thing that shocks me though is if Fellow can produce a purpose made grinder for brewed for the price, why cannot espresso grinder manufacturers

thetravdog

Really cool setup @dfk41! If I ever had a spare £600 I think I would also love the same. I really want to like filter coffee but I never have, these 2 probably eliminate a lot of the guesswork I would hope? They also just look very nice as a pair!

Tal

What happened to the niche Dave? Did you sell it to BB?

dfk41

Tal I have a pal on here who has been patiently waiting in the wings for another friend of mine to install his new grinder (that I delivered 2 months ago!) freeing up his Niche. In case anyone is uncertain, I have thrown myself wholeheartedly into the brewed movement. I could see no advantage is using a hybrid grinder like the Zero which was quite capable grinding for brewed coffee. In short I passed on my Zero allowing me to replace it with a brew dedicated grinder from Fellow. Will I live to regret this? We wil have to wait and see!

Adrianmsmith

dfk41

Regret is a strange concept….

Curious to compare to xyz is the way to look at it. The rabbit hole gas many offshoots

dfk41

A few days on with this. I like its looks and size. It is not loud and certainly grinds 18 gms in just a few seconds. Hoffman disliked the catch cup. It has a couple of fins in it which direct the grounds through an opening. I find it works fine for me but I am not an influencer of course!

Because it is predominantly plastic it does not feel premium in the way the Zero did, but so what? I am pleased to confirm my palate still cannot tell the difference between a conical and a flat burr!

Adrianmsmith

dfk41

I tend to prefer the look of conicals to flats 🤭

John_Yossarian

dfk41 Hi @dfk41 . Yesterday it landed safely as I was not at home on Wednesday. Tomorrow morning I will make the first shot using the Zero. Thank you very much!

John_Yossarian

This morning I fired up the Zero and I understood why it has been such a popular choice, I would say (after using it even only a few times) it is a no brainer.
@dfk41 had left it in a “brewed coffee” state and after turning it to 5 I still got quite coarse grind (I understood after why it has been this way). i had to do an extra 360 degrees to get to 13 on the Espresso side (when it was at 7 it choked up the Crem at 10 bars) and I had a very sweet shot.

Tomorrow I will do a blind test with my wife comparing Mythos One vs Zero. i Love both grinders but the conical revelation is a new thing to me.

@dfk41 Apologies for hijacking the thread.

dfk41

John_Yossarian I ought to have told you that often for brewed coffee the marker is around the hinges…..that said I normally open them up a bit for transport! I would start off around 10 unless the beans are light and work your way in from there!

John_Yossarian

dfk41 All is good !

dfk41

Having spent a bit of time now, trying to master brewed coffee, with help I have come up with a master plan! Despite all the advice that I have been given regarding ratios, i have consigned the whole lot to the bin! I am going to stick with what has worked, which is 230 mls water, 18 gms of coffee and for lighter roasts, 96 degrees. The Ode will be set to 5 which they recommend as a starting point. If the resulting brew is not to my taste I will go one whole number coarser then try again. If it is no better, then one whole number tighter. As far as I can make out, all the other stuff is just twoddle and can only play a small part in the format of the brew.

I have 8 125 gm bags to get through. I doubt any of them will reach the tasting notes. In fact I am just going to open them and not even read the notes meaning a low bar of expectation!

Tal

Good luck with it mate, for Aroma boy, v60 or switch I’m usually around the 6 mark.

dfk41

Tal I am going to use this for the Aiden and if I feel the need use the Switch. To my simplified way of thinking, you cannot turn donkey steak into fillet steak! I think a lot of the beans I encounter are dissapointing hence the rudimentary approach. Sometimes you can fine tune an adjustment to help make it better, but it is a twiddle.

I have a very expensive bag that when I first opened it was 9/10 but a week on using exactly the same methods it goes down to 6. It can only be the bean. Perhaps I am wrong for buying a kilo but I did that because the smaller bag was outstanding!

guyy

Could be that you’ve tired of the coffee. Or maybe it’s lost something in that week. Some flavours are fleeting and perhaps those are the ones you enjoy most.

DaveLeonard

I have a Fellow Ode 2 that I’ve had going on two years now. I love it! So much better than less expensive grinders I’ve had. I use it daily for my 8-cup Bodum Epebo siphon brewer.

Dave

dfk41

I am a big admirer of the Ode 2. I have nothing to compare it to of course. My Eureka is not suitable for brewed as it weighs and doses into the pf. I am amazed that Fellow can produce these grinders for the price. I know people bang on about the use of plastics but it does not bother me in relation to their products.