I’ll never understand the following statement “always use bottled water, will descale before sale”. If you don’t need to descale then don’t do it. Anyway, I don’t think the price is high particularly, considering the paddle is included and costs about £300 or more in total? The prices on CFUK were often bargains and people allowed themselves to be haggled down and accepted low ball offers too easily just because of a sense of community…and the fact they usually needed to free up space for another machine.