dfk41 Cuprajake I think 2017 was when the Indiegogo campaign launched. I can remember chatting to Martin in August 2017 when I was in hospital. The result was the introduction of @“DavecUK” to the Niche team. I think it launched on Indiegogo in November or so but it must have been sometime in 2018 when they were released. That means they have been out in the wild about 4 years or so……how time flies!