Ethiopian Sidamo and Medium / Medium Dark Roast. 20g, 1.4 turns in Jx Pro, 46.4g out and took a little longer at almost a minute. The group was set 93C and the brew was set at 99C. Took 18s for the first drop into the cup. This is too long. I thought the cup isn’t going to be good. It was so good, I drank straight as an espresso. Fruity citrus and lemon grass for me. It will definitely benefit from loosening the grind. This bag will be very good for brewing for sure, which is what I will do later today. https://imgur.com/a/vTgy8Be

@"LMSC"#p1024 The beans look well roasted for a medium dark roast….who was the roaster?

@"DavecUK"#p1035 Clumsy Goat. They stated both the Peru and this Ethiopian are medium roast. I did not think so. I reckoned the Peru was medium dark / dark. That bag was ok; I was never happy with that Peruvian Bag. This Ethiopian is very good and sweet. I was erring more on the medium dark; I didn’t think it’s a dark roast, looking at the dark yellow / light brown colours at the crevice of the beans; I thought they may have been taken out just before the second crack, not at the second. Obviously, I lack a roasting experience and still learning to differentiate the roasts. 😊 You won’t call it as a dark roast, would you ? Thx

> @"LMSC"#p1039 You won’t call it as a dark roast, would you ? Thx I would call that medium dark…it's about as dark as I like to go, normally I'm in the medium or medium light camps. as my personal preference and that of my roast sharers. That roast was nowhere near 2nd crack and I would guess it's about 30-50 seconds after first…not roasted too fast because I can't see any oil and no charred chaff lines, indicating the burners going off before 1st crack and the roast allowed to coast into it. My guess for what it's worth…anyway, they did a good job.

Crown and canvas - first light Brazilian and colombian blend. Bag states dark chocolate, hazelnut and red berry and I have to say it delivers! Espresso 16g in 32g out: really rich dark chocolate and hazelnut (think greene and blacks) and a gentle acidity to finish. Lovely mouthfeel and long lasting. As a flat white everything’s sweetened up and it really pushes the hazelnut flavour. Delicious. Off to make another 😉

@"Baldrick"#p1770 Hadn't heard of Crown and Canvas before. Having looked at their website and following your positive recommendation I think I will be giving them a try.

@"Dumnorix"#p1793 very popular roaster and some great coffees by all accounts. If you check our commercial directory, you will find some good and reliable companies to use. https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/52-commercial-members-list

@"DavecUK"#p1796 Many thanks for the link.

Origin Colombia Estate Café Granja La Esperanza Farm Potosi Varietal San Juan Process Natural Altitude 1,800-2,000 masl Harvest January - April I got it from my local shop. It's got a really nice sultana smooth taste. Currently brewing it in a Aeropress 1:15 and diluting up to around a 320g cup. Really enjoying it at cooler temps.

Crankhouse, Cordillera de Fuego, anaerobic natural Caturra & Catuai - Initially hesitant & bracing myself due to the pungent, farmyard aroma off the beans, but absolutely delivers in every aspect on the flavour in cup. Complex, good perception of sweetness. Delicious! Like a coffee equivalent to mulled wine. I'm not big fan of naturals, nor Cost a Ricans generally, but I love this. 13\.6g ground at 32 on Wilfa flat, V60 02 with can strainer, 40g every 40s (each pour taking about 13s), 1st 2 pours direct on to the coffee bed, last 3 via can strainer. Dry bed 3:15 for this brew.

Mikari AA (Washed) (Kenya) from Coffee by the Casuals - two ways. Moka Pot - really rich, lots of peach. Very smooth. Pre-boiled water and AP filter, but no 'bloom'. CCD - 18g + 300g - 32 on Niche. Still steeping, but based on brews this week, flavour is more balanced, not as in your face (as expected) - not much pineapple, but more acitidty alongside the peach.

What’s in your cup this morning ?

Cuprajake

So back to proper beans

Black cat Colombia

This smelt lovely just out of the grinder. Bags of fruit, and booze to the nose

In the shot again bags of fruit.

LMSC

Cuprajake Glad you liked it! They seldom disappoint. The only bag, which was average was the Brazil.

What sort of temp do you have for this? Ours is 91/97.

@dutchy101 - Two of us! :-)

dutchy101

LMSC

Love a really boozy coffee. Really looking forward to this

Cuprajake

91/98 iirc

prezes

I was trying to resist as got more than enough coffee already but just ordered 500g of La Esperanza and 500g of chocolate point

Cuprajake

The black cat Colombia. One of the better ones I’ve had recently

CoyoteOldMan

Cuprajake What does it taste like?

dutchy101

Cuprajake

Nice. Got a kilo of this on order

LMSC

CoyoteOldMan Booze and fruity notes for me!

CoyoteOldMan

LMSC Cuprajake rum and strawberries. Could live with that…

Cuprajake

As above when I grind I’m getting almost strawberry, this comes through in the shot, but with the booze, this is the first boozy coffee I’ve really tried as its not a tasting note I tend to go for

Cuprajake

Black cat chocolate point this morning, does what it says on the tin

DavecUK

Coffee Compass Cherry Cherry 🍒 again, but from Lelit Bianca.

LMSC

Smith Street Washed Tanzanian

17g, 40g out, 30s, 92/98. Apple acidity and flavour and Orange Peel taste at the finish. It is a decent bag. It’s a little faster.

MediumRoastSteam

LMSC Apple acidity and flavour and Orange Peel taste at the finish.

Honest question: Would you be able to come up with those tasting notes remarks yourself if they were not written in the description?

Cuprajake

MediumRoastSteam are you taking the pith 😆

LMSC

MediumRoastSteam Only with some psychic powers to pin point exactly! 😆😉

You have been in the business for a long time. You have got to ask why they are written? Please don’t tell me you don’t know! I won’t buy it. 😂

capuchin

MediumRoastSteam

This [Tanzanian Manjinja] is pretty much my favourite coffee at the moment (I know I’m replying to a post from ages ago!) - and absolutely.

Sour Apple and the orange taste is pretty dominant on the intake, the caramel and the butterscotch/chocolately taste on the way out is more subtle but still there.

I’m far from a super taster and often miss notes, and am not always a fan of ‘fruity’ coffee, so this is a surprising delight for me. I grind finer though I think, 17g in 35 out in 40 secs + a 10 second pre infusion.

MediumRoastSteam

Cuprajake - No, not at all. It’s an honest question. My personal experience was that, with the exception of a couple of times where I could say “Blimey, this tastes like strawberry, or banana” I cannot ever, for the life of me, taste any of the tasting notes. Hence why I genuinely ask the question to @LMSC : Are his comments influenced by the description in the sense that he agrees with the tasting notes, or it is something so bold that you can certainly single them out, even if they were not written on the bag?

LMSC

MediumRoastSteam Good question.

Let me answer with my limited experience

The notes are there to see if you get what’s printed on the bag and also help staying clear of them. There can be a confirmation bias.
Certain flavours / aroma are obvious - booze, citrus / oranges, mango, blueberry cocoa/dark chocolate and almond (very subtle).
Red fruits/ berries typically have strong acidity and flavours - not my favourite
Passion fruit and tropical fruits have medium flavour / acidity - can’t differentiate
Grapes - can’t pick them at all
Rhubarb, Gooseberry, Cranberry and Grapefruit - I avoid them if they are written. I will add the orange peel / citrus peel to this list. Because, we don’t know if it is a brew malfunction or the actual flavour.
Mild acidity and flavour are normally nectarine, peach, plums, strawberries. Except Strawberries, they are difficult and I can’t tell them apart. I like these bag as I have found these bags very sweet and nice to drink.

If there are no descriptions, I guess we will be lost, unless one is a super taster and gifted.I take them as a guidance for choosing my beans.

The question is :

Does it really matter? In my case yes, as I am able to stay clear of certain beans.

MediumRoastSteam

To go even further, I’m drinking some of the Smith Street coffee, Colombian Pedraza Natural, recommended here, by @LMSC. The tasting notes appeal to me (as in, whatever is written) and the coffee is pleasant. But I cannot call the tasting notes out. If had to give you an answer, it would be: “Yeah, it’s lovely, I enjoy it… It tastes of coffee, with a pleasant acidity, and not bitter.” But for the life of me I can’t taste those notes. Maybe it’s just me.

mathof2

MediumRoastSteam The first time I ever encountered a tasting note I could not help but recognise was blueberry in an Ethiopian filter coffee (brewed as filter). Chocolate was the second. Now occasionally, when I notice a flavour that I can’t recognise, I check the flavour notes to see whether they are of any help. I did that this morning while I was drinking a Fullsteam (single origin Columbian) from Volcano roasters. The answer was “almond”, and that seemed right (although of course there is no way I can know whether that worked by suggestion or “real” memory).

Ernie1

Long black with Origin’s Los Altos. I think this is the best way to enjoy this coffee. It’s quite muted with milk. Almond, chocolate and brown sugar in the notes and there’s definitely a subtle relief from just heavy chocolate notes.

Bought it in a pinch from my local cafe at £10 for a small bag but I’ve just noticed a kilo is £27 direct so I might indulge.

MediumRoastSteam

Ernie1 I’d buy a kilo but it’s £40 😅.

No point in having an expensive machine and not put the coffee you enjoy in it :-)

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