I've gotten in contact with ACS about the Minima cost since I can't find a UK retailer and Maria got back to me with a standard stainless steel Minima for €1200,00 (approx. £1050) including shipping to UK with 24 months of warranty where they will support for any issue/s or replacements (free of charge for the warranty period) by emails, pictures and video calls. Am I right in thinking this is a fantastic price right?

@"Verion"#p28064 It used to retail £1179 to £1379. Please note, unless they have advised you otherwise, you will be charged VAT and import duties by DHL for customs clearance in the UK.

@"LMSC"#p28065 Good point about the VAT and import duties by DHL for customs clearance in the UK. I'll ask Maria about that.

Still a good price though. Is there another dual boiler in or around that price available from a UK retailer?

id buy now before it goes 2 euro to a pound haha there a good machine tbf

@"Verion"#p28066 One point to note - there should be no duties, only VAT, as the machine is made in the EU. I was charged (incorrectly) a fairly minimal amount of duty on my ACS machine, and I didn't challenge it. I was charged a much higher % amount on a recent import of a sweater (from Italy, as it happens)… and DHL backpedalled very quickly when I challenged them. Just make sure that ACS adds a declaration of origin to the paperwork if you go the 'direct from manufacturer' route.

@"dfk41"#p28067 The only dual boiler that comes close is the Lelit Elizabeth v3 at Bella Barista for £1,149 in price. But I'm not into the design. Maybe it looks too much like my current Sage DTP which I'm ready to move on from after a number of years. If Black Cat Coffee had the stainless steel Minima in stock it would have been £1,279, so the prices direct assuming I am liable for VAT and Import duties makes it around £1,260(ish). If not, then it makes it better value at £1,050 with everything included than the Lelit Elizabeth v3 or if I wanted an HX machine, then the Lelit Mara X v2. The next jump is closer to £1,800 with the Lelit Bianca v3 or something from Profitec or ECM. It's a lot of money when a Minima is a lot, lot less.

@"CoyoteOldMan"#p28071 Can I assume you bought your Minima direct?

@"Verion"#p28073 It was a Vesuvius Evo Leva, but yes - direct from ACS, so dealing with exactly the same people and carrier that you'd be!

@"Cuprajake"#p28070 Would be good if it did go 2 euro to the pound - Minima would only cost £600! Sadly parity is more likely.

haha you know what i mean lol the bianca is a different kettle of fish, alot more for your money than the minima - but its £600 more

ACS Minima

DavecUK

Abcan I think you can write to [ info@elcor.it](mailto:info@elcor.it)

Abcan

Hi again. @Verion or anyone else who’s ordered direct from ACS….do the machines come with a UK plug?

Thanks

DavecUK

Abcan If you state UK….yes

Abcan

DavecUK thank you. I’ve emailed them to ask for a price. 👍🏻

Abcan

Put my order in today for a black Minima. 😊 this thread swayed it for me, plus the price and the great service from ACS (namely Maria). Looking forward to moving to a DB from the gaggia.

PortafilterProcrastinator

Quick question…

Is there any reason why I should not put a paper filter behind my shower screen?

Cuprajake

It’ll go skanky

Unless you mean puck screen?

PortafilterProcrastinator

Cuprajake

No, I meant like a trimmed down aeropress filter.

I drop my shower screen twice a week at the moment, so wondered if I could limit the amount of crud getting sucked back up and inside.

Not very sustainable, but then no part of this hobby is!

Doram

PortafilterProcrastinator I drop my shower screen twice a week at the moment, so wondered if I could limit the amount of crud getting sucked back up and inside.

May have missed something, but have you considered a metal mesh puck screen? This keeps the group much cleaner and is reusable.

Cuprajake

No you would be better putting the paper on top of your puck 😉 really helps

PortafilterProcrastinator

Cuprajake Cheers - was hoping not to get through quite so many paper filters.

Hey ho, I’ll see how I go.

PortafilterProcrastinator

Doram Yes, but didn’t think they stopped the crud getting sucked back into the machine.

I also understand from reading that using one would mean I’d have to change my dose or get a bigger basket.

I drop my shower screen twice a week at the moment and just wondered if there was a slightly more conventional way to ‘protect’ the solenoid etc a bit more.

Doram

PortafilterProcrastinator Yes, but didn’t think they stopped the crud getting sucked back into the machine.

I think it does stop crud getting sucked back into the machine (in fact I’m pretty sure of it).

PortafilterProcrastinator I also understand from reading that using one would mean I’d have to change my dose or get a bigger basket.

I didn’t change the basket or dose. Still use 15g dose in a 15g basket with no issue.

PortafilterProcrastinator I drop my shower screen twice a week at the moment and just wondered if there was a slightly more conventional way to ‘protect’ the solenoid etc a bit more.

I use the metal mesh screen for exactly the same goal and am very happy with what it does.

PortafilterProcrastinator

Doram Thanks for sharing your experience.

Which screen do you use?

Doram

PortafilterProcrastinator Doram Thanks for sharing your experience.

Which screen do you use?

It looks very similar to this (mine is the 58.5mm/150 micron/2mm thick version; the actual one that I bought is no longer available, but this looks identical).

Abcan

My new black Minima will be dispatched Monday. Really looking forward to getting it! For anyone unsure about buying direct I can say that so far it’s been very straight forward. I paid by credit card as I got a better exchange rate and also wanted the extra security credit offers. ACS just sent me a link to do this. It’s nice dealing with a company that knows what it’s doing.

DavecUK

Abcan My new black Minima will be dispatched Monday.

The black Minimas look really nice and I believe both boilers have drain valves under the access hatch on the bottom of the machine. Worth you looking and letting us know.

Verion

Abcan Amazing news! I wonder if you got the updated PID. Definitely want to see pics once you’ve set it up.

Abcan

DavecUK Worth you looking and letting us know.

Will do. 👍🏻

ams

I’ve been considering the ACS Minima, I’m looking for a machine where I can make milk based drinks in the morning and leave on for 8+ hours so that I can make an espresso when I fancy (the ability to switch off the steam boiler is attractive), I don’t really want to be factoring 30min warm up times prior. I wondered if anyone has any thoughts on the daily cost of this and what the rate of component wear may be.

PortafilterProcrastinator

ams Why can’t you use an app connected plug like a Tapo?

Abcan

Hi @ams Ive not got mine yet to work how much it uses. Looking at the specs the brew boiler is 1000w and the service boiler is 1200w. I’m sure someone will be along to give you more of an idea of power usage.

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