I've gotten in contact with ACS about the Minima cost since I can't find a UK retailer and Maria got back to me with a standard stainless steel Minima for €1200,00 (approx. £1050) including shipping to UK with 24 months of warranty where they will support for any issue/s or replacements (free of charge for the warranty period) by emails, pictures and video calls. Am I right in thinking this is a fantastic price right?

@"Verion"#p28064 It used to retail £1179 to £1379. Please note, unless they have advised you otherwise, you will be charged VAT and import duties by DHL for customs clearance in the UK.

@"LMSC"#p28065 Good point about the VAT and import duties by DHL for customs clearance in the UK. I'll ask Maria about that.

Still a good price though. Is there another dual boiler in or around that price available from a UK retailer?

id buy now before it goes 2 euro to a pound haha there a good machine tbf

@"Verion"#p28066 One point to note - there should be no duties, only VAT, as the machine is made in the EU. I was charged (incorrectly) a fairly minimal amount of duty on my ACS machine, and I didn't challenge it. I was charged a much higher % amount on a recent import of a sweater (from Italy, as it happens)… and DHL backpedalled very quickly when I challenged them. Just make sure that ACS adds a declaration of origin to the paperwork if you go the 'direct from manufacturer' route.

@"dfk41"#p28067 The only dual boiler that comes close is the Lelit Elizabeth v3 at Bella Barista for £1,149 in price. But I'm not into the design. Maybe it looks too much like my current Sage DTP which I'm ready to move on from after a number of years. If Black Cat Coffee had the stainless steel Minima in stock it would have been £1,279, so the prices direct assuming I am liable for VAT and Import duties makes it around £1,260(ish). If not, then it makes it better value at £1,050 with everything included than the Lelit Elizabeth v3 or if I wanted an HX machine, then the Lelit Mara X v2. The next jump is closer to £1,800 with the Lelit Bianca v3 or something from Profitec or ECM. It's a lot of money when a Minima is a lot, lot less.

@"CoyoteOldMan"#p28071 Can I assume you bought your Minima direct?

@"Verion"#p28073 It was a Vesuvius Evo Leva, but yes - direct from ACS, so dealing with exactly the same people and carrier that you'd be!

@"Cuprajake"#p28070 Would be good if it did go 2 euro to the pound - Minima would only cost £600! Sadly parity is more likely.

haha you know what i mean lol the bianca is a different kettle of fish, alot more for your money than the minima - but its £600 more

ACS Minima

Cuprajake

Well seen as he has a Lazer etching machine they could do that 😂🤷🤦

Verion

@Abcan lovely colour, that black.

I wish you all the best with your new toy.

ams

@Abcan how are you finding the Minima?

Abcan

ams great thanks! It’s so much easier to use than the Classic! I’ve lost a lot of the bitterness in the shots, something I could never seem to master on the classic. I’m very happy with it.

Cuprajake

minima for its price point is amazing

Abcan

Hi All. What bottomless porta filters are you Minima users using please? I like the standard double porta filter but it’s not as easy to clean as the bottomless one I used on the classic. I’ve looked at the Normecore ones and also the ACS ones but wondered if anyone had a recommendation.

Thanks

MediumRoastSteam

Abcan - any generic E61 will fit.

Like this one: https://bellabarista.co.uk/products/naked-bottomless-portafilter-for-e61-group-heads?_pos=1&_sid=27b64e85e&_ss=r

Or this

https://www.bluestarcoffee.eu/en/ECM-Naked-Portafilter/m-5140.aspx

There are many others.

Abcan

Thanks @MediumRoastSteam. Apart from the quality of the handle is there much difference in the various makes?

MediumRoastSteam

Abcan - no idea. I only had generic ones! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Igm45

I’m pretty sure I’ve got a generic one laying about somewhere, if you cover the postage you can have it.

Abcan

Igm45 that’s very kind of you!

Igm45

No worries. Ping me an email, I’ll look for it tomorrow and post it out.

Verion

@Abcan I bought the ACS one from Black Cat Coffee as it was £35 with postage which at the time was overall the cheapest naked portafilter I could find.

You might find one cheaper though, but to everyone else’s point, a generic e61 is no better or worse than the ACS one.

MediumRoastSteam

Verion bought the ACS one from Black Cat Coffee as it was £35 with postage

That’s a great price. You’d struggle to find anything cheaper than that that is of somewhat decent quality.

Verion

MediumRoastSteam I wish someone would make just the portafilter part and let people bring their own handles.

Mmm, might have to have a search…

Cuprajake

Ecm portafilter are nice

Abcan

@Igm45 very kindly sent me one he had spare which is ideal. 👍🏻👍🏻

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