I hate autotune so much, it's very limiting for me to find music. At the moment chilling to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHtJBj9F-sM

I think it is ok to post even if we aren’t listening, but watching or reading! We are watching BBC’s programme on *Political Thinking* hosted by Nick Robinson, who is interviewing the newly appointed Social Mobility Chairperson Katharine Birbalsingh CBE.

Listening to Radio 2 at the moment

Not right this very second, but I'm listening to a lot of TOOL and Pusifer recently. My stereo is currently in storage, so SONOS or phone mainly unless I'm in the car.

@"DavecUK"#p1436 Will you listen to anything that isn't auto-tuned, or do you have particular genres?

Apple music’s today’s hits and recent releases are my typical go to play lists. The last recent release album I listened was 30 by Adele. Elvis’s and Beatles are my all time favourites.

> @"PortafilterProcrastinator"#p1444 Will you listen to anything that isn’t auto-tuned, or do you have particular genres? I like all music, the problem is after autotune became increasingly prevalent after the mid 90s, I found myself listening to les and less…I couldn't initially work out why, then I discovered autotune and then Melodyne, There has been pitch correction for a very long time, right back to the tape and splice days with multiple takes…this isn 't a problem. Autotune is a massive problem as is hand dragged pure digital pitch correction. It changes the voice, looses all human character, and they all sound like singing Kazoos. If it isn't autotuned…I'll listen to it, I'm pragmatic. Just the same as when I go to buy a pair of Trainers, or shoes…I don't ask to look at various styles…I ask the shop assistant, what trainers have you got in size 12…they give me a puzzled look as if im an idiot, but come back with 2 or 3 pairs of trainers, which are the only 3 styles in size 12. What's getting really irritating is the production companies, in their "wisdom", have gone back and autotuned Bowie, Freddie Mercury, Simon and garfunkle etc.. to make it "better". I'm quite passionate about the companies stopping using it….as they are robbing generations of appreciating how voices can, and should sound. If you're interested, there is a great YouTube channel here, Fil does some great videos covering music, playing, performance and more recently autotune/pitch correction. https://www.youtube.com/c/wingsofpegasus

If I’m on my own the. It’s Planet Rock or my vast collection of Classic Rock through my iphone and my Bose Revolve plus. My stereo is in storage too as I have a two year old grand daughter who visits very regularly

The Hi-Fi stand is full of her toys and books atm

I do like classic Rock - deep Purple was a favourite of mine when I was young. Steve Tyler used to make me laugh as well. > @"Nightrider_1uk"#p1450 My stereo is in storage too as I have a two year old grand daughter who visits very regularly I understand 😁 ![Dent in the dust cap | HiFiVision.com](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/fP2u0FCqNy0/maxresdefault.jpg) I had to protect mine from the cat with lift off shells….the more expensive ones in the front room, are not protected, he is just denied access….how he loves trying to get into the front room and is in 7th heaven when he does. [upl-image-preview url=//i.imgur.com/P2VakbB.jpeg]

This week I've mainly been listening to Leonard Cohen - Song's of Love and Hate, Isobel Campbell & Mark Lanangan - Ballad Of The Broken Seas and Amy Winehouse At The BBC - all recent purchases (albeit third copy of the Cohen album!), interspersed with BBC 6 Music. I'm old fashioned, still listen almost entirely on vinyl and still buying it. I'm really interested in music and always have been, dabbled in recording and production for years, not so much now but still interested in it. Still play guitar, electric and acoustic. The discussion on the sound of a lot of modern popular recordings is interesting - it's not to my taste either. It's fashion though - that sound is what is popular now. Production is constantly changing as engineers and musicians use the latest developments available to them - been that way since recording started. That Cher song Believe, was the first big song to use Auto-Tune - and use it in a way that it was not designed to be used. It was initially intended to be a subtle correction tool but she cranked it to 11 for that robot voice sound and started a fashion. My other big gripe with modern music is that it generally lacks dynamics, what people sometimes refer to as the loudness wars. I think this is due to how people consume music now. When I was a teenager, getting your first "separates system" was a right of passage. Hi-Fi was a thing. And you listened to physical albums. Now people listen on streaming services through cheap earbuds or tinny bluetooth speakers. Artists (and record companies) no longer make money on sales, them make them on streamed "listens" - and without an immediate punch and catchy gimmick it's very easy for the listener to simply skip to the next song. So everything gets "louder" to attract attention. Recording even has a new measurement to cater for this need - the LUT, which is basically a measure of loudness. You should add that to your hate list alongside overt use of Auto-Tune. I'm less upset about Melodyne though as it is generally used as a subtle production tool rather than an effect; when used well it should be transparent and can make a good recording of a great voice even better. I do enjoy the imperfections in older recordings though.

What I'm listening to/Watching at the moment

DavecUK

Pompeyexile Keep meaning to watch afterlife, I do like Gervais.

Cuprajake

Disney is the best streaming service imo

DavecUK

Cuprajake Disney is the best streaming service imo

After you mentioned it…I looked into it and chatted to a mate. They don’t seem to mind sharing, we worked out if we bought a 1 year sub, that’s about £3.40 per month each. We already share prime and NF, so the total would be about £12.40 per month…..which is still 10 cheaper than the TV licence I stopped paying last June….and way, way better value IMO with no adverts.

I think the BBCs days are numbered unless they can get their fee added onto everyone’s Tax, there’s been nothing I wanted to watch on the Beeb for years now. The cheek of it is they put out a lot of pap compared to the streaming service and are terrible value for money. I don’t think they could become a paid streaming channel, because I don’t think anyone would subscribe.

Baldrick

I never really got into the office, derek or any of Gervais’ other shows despite really enjoying his stand up and his golden globes hosting etc.
After life is an absolute masterpiece though. As @Pompeyexile has said it’s an emotionally tiring but essential watch!

4W5

I love the American version of The Office (Netflix).

CafeNoir

LMSC Boring??? We’re watching the same show?? Keep watching as previously advised, it is fricken excellent.

drdre89

Been listening to this music artist from Melbourne. Quite good stuff

www.joedarwish.com

LMSC

Grance and Frankie is taking a pause. Just started Tinder Swindler.

SouthMark45

Been listening to The Smiths again recently….. Jonny Marr is a genius cannot believe how old he was when he was creating the guitar riffs he did

Yep I am a massive Guitar fan 😀

SouthMark45

Oh and just finished Afterlife S3 very good

LMSC

Guys, please watch Tinder Swindler on Netflix. It’s absorbing and shocking!

DavecUK

LMSC I must admit to having had to look up Tinder Swindler….just to understand what it was.

LMSC

DavecUK 🤣

Doram

Just finished watching The Father with Anthony Hopkins. Very powerful film. Thought it was really excellent.

DavecUK

Doram Just finished watching The Father with Anthony Hopkins. Very powerful film. Thought it was really excellent.

I was going to watch that, but with my mum in a care home, with dementia, I thought it might be upsetting for me..ATM there is Covid in the home, so they have closed to visitors, been 3 weeks now.

Doram

DavecUK I was going to watch that, but with my mum in a care home, with dementia, I thought it might be upsetting for me..ATM there is Covid in the home, so they have closed to visitors, been 3 weeks now.

Really sorry to hear that Dave. This can definitely be upsetting (and quite terrifying if I am honest). It is such a good film, so can be hard to watch.

Pompeyexile

I know everything is subjective, but I thought I’d give (as many seem to think it is great) the American version of The Office a go.

I know for the first few series they uesd the same story and script from the Brit version and tweaked it a bit for the American market which is fine, but it was the actors playing the parts for me that made it virtually unwatchable.

Carell just wasn’t funny or more importantly as cringingly embarrassing as Gervaise made him coupled with the pathos, and as for the guy playing the part of Gareth…just awful.

Same story, same lines but terribly delivered.

Many moons ago, Steve Coogan had a character whose catchphrase was ‘Bag-O-Sh*te!’ Sorry, but that is exactly what I thought of it.

Tin Hat on…

Norvin

Pompeyexile

I loved the original Gervais Office but didn’t get past the first 15 minutes of the American version, just didn’t find it funny at all. I didn’t realise that they used the same scripts in the early episodes.

I find most of the American sitcoms not very funny and I find the overblown canned laughter very annoying. I tried watching Schitt’s Creek once after seeing good reviews, even endured about three episodes hoping that it would improve, it never did.

Doram

Pompeyexile I know everything is subjective, but I thought I’d give (as many seem to think it is great) the American version of The Office a go.

I know for the first few series they uesd the same story and script from the Brit version and tweaked it a bit for the American market which is fine, but it was the actors playing the parts for me that made it virtually unwatchable.

Had the exact same experience as you. Felt like I am watching a high school band trying to reproduce the Beatles. Watched a few episodes and gave up.

The people who recommended it said I have to persist because it gets better, but I couldn’t be bothered. Watched the good version again with the children instead. :-)

Re persistence needed: Started watching Breaking Bad a few years ago. Saw three episodes and gave up. But people insisted it was one of the best shows in history and I just needed to persist. So tried again and persisted all the way to the end. Still didn’t like it.

And that’s the thing with American shows: they make so many seasons with so many episodes. It is very rare that this sort of length is justifiable for me (although there are a few exceptions). I much prefer the British format - more concise without painfully stretching everything to death just so they can sell more advertisement.

Pompeyexile

That’s ‘subjective’ right there, because I thought Breaking Bad was brilliant. I’m not right and others who think differently are wrong, because as Python once said…'You’re all individuals!'

I still think Lee Evans was one of the best visual and funniest comediens ever, who actually had me almost crying with laughter….I know some people who couldn’t stand him. There are only a few ‘stand up’ comedians I can think of today who make me laugh out loud, Lee Mack, Ed Byrn and Greg Davies, as for all the others, rarely a titter and my most unfunny of all, who for me is stealing a living…John Bishop (who is also cr*p in Dr Who) and yet others love him.

Horses for courses as they say.

DavecUK

Pompeyexile There are only a few ‘stand up’ comedians I can think of today who make me laugh out loud,

I like Peter Kay, he is very good indeed….as is Gervais in stand-up. Alf Garnett (Warren Mitchell was very good as well).

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