I hate autotune so much, it's very limiting for me to find music. At the moment chilling to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHtJBj9F-sM

I think it is ok to post even if we aren’t listening, but watching or reading! We are watching BBC’s programme on *Political Thinking* hosted by Nick Robinson, who is interviewing the newly appointed Social Mobility Chairperson Katharine Birbalsingh CBE.

Listening to Radio 2 at the moment

Not right this very second, but I'm listening to a lot of TOOL and Pusifer recently. My stereo is currently in storage, so SONOS or phone mainly unless I'm in the car.

@"DavecUK"#p1436 Will you listen to anything that isn't auto-tuned, or do you have particular genres?

Apple music’s today’s hits and recent releases are my typical go to play lists. The last recent release album I listened was 30 by Adele. Elvis’s and Beatles are my all time favourites.

> @"PortafilterProcrastinator"#p1444 Will you listen to anything that isn’t auto-tuned, or do you have particular genres? I like all music, the problem is after autotune became increasingly prevalent after the mid 90s, I found myself listening to les and less…I couldn't initially work out why, then I discovered autotune and then Melodyne, There has been pitch correction for a very long time, right back to the tape and splice days with multiple takes…this isn 't a problem. Autotune is a massive problem as is hand dragged pure digital pitch correction. It changes the voice, looses all human character, and they all sound like singing Kazoos. If it isn't autotuned…I'll listen to it, I'm pragmatic. Just the same as when I go to buy a pair of Trainers, or shoes…I don't ask to look at various styles…I ask the shop assistant, what trainers have you got in size 12…they give me a puzzled look as if im an idiot, but come back with 2 or 3 pairs of trainers, which are the only 3 styles in size 12. What's getting really irritating is the production companies, in their "wisdom", have gone back and autotuned Bowie, Freddie Mercury, Simon and garfunkle etc.. to make it "better". I'm quite passionate about the companies stopping using it….as they are robbing generations of appreciating how voices can, and should sound. If you're interested, there is a great YouTube channel here, Fil does some great videos covering music, playing, performance and more recently autotune/pitch correction. https://www.youtube.com/c/wingsofpegasus

If I’m on my own the. It’s Planet Rock or my vast collection of Classic Rock through my iphone and my Bose Revolve plus. My stereo is in storage too as I have a two year old grand daughter who visits very regularly

The Hi-Fi stand is full of her toys and books atm

I do like classic Rock - deep Purple was a favourite of mine when I was young. Steve Tyler used to make me laugh as well. > @"Nightrider_1uk"#p1450 My stereo is in storage too as I have a two year old grand daughter who visits very regularly I understand 😁 ![Dent in the dust cap | HiFiVision.com](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/fP2u0FCqNy0/maxresdefault.jpg) I had to protect mine from the cat with lift off shells….the more expensive ones in the front room, are not protected, he is just denied access….how he loves trying to get into the front room and is in 7th heaven when he does. [upl-image-preview url=//i.imgur.com/P2VakbB.jpeg]

This week I've mainly been listening to Leonard Cohen - Song's of Love and Hate, Isobel Campbell & Mark Lanangan - Ballad Of The Broken Seas and Amy Winehouse At The BBC - all recent purchases (albeit third copy of the Cohen album!), interspersed with BBC 6 Music. I'm old fashioned, still listen almost entirely on vinyl and still buying it. I'm really interested in music and always have been, dabbled in recording and production for years, not so much now but still interested in it. Still play guitar, electric and acoustic. The discussion on the sound of a lot of modern popular recordings is interesting - it's not to my taste either. It's fashion though - that sound is what is popular now. Production is constantly changing as engineers and musicians use the latest developments available to them - been that way since recording started. That Cher song Believe, was the first big song to use Auto-Tune - and use it in a way that it was not designed to be used. It was initially intended to be a subtle correction tool but she cranked it to 11 for that robot voice sound and started a fashion. My other big gripe with modern music is that it generally lacks dynamics, what people sometimes refer to as the loudness wars. I think this is due to how people consume music now. When I was a teenager, getting your first "separates system" was a right of passage. Hi-Fi was a thing. And you listened to physical albums. Now people listen on streaming services through cheap earbuds or tinny bluetooth speakers. Artists (and record companies) no longer make money on sales, them make them on streamed "listens" - and without an immediate punch and catchy gimmick it's very easy for the listener to simply skip to the next song. So everything gets "louder" to attract attention. Recording even has a new measurement to cater for this need - the LUT, which is basically a measure of loudness. You should add that to your hate list alongside overt use of Auto-Tune. I'm less upset about Melodyne though as it is generally used as a subtle production tool rather than an effect; when used well it should be transparent and can make a good recording of a great voice even better. I do enjoy the imperfections in older recordings though.

What I'm listening to/Watching at the moment

LMSC

Cuprajake I’ll go free sat from the dish, will need an lnb though, as they made the q lnd unusable

Your home should already have an aerial installed. That should be enough, I think. You can connect it directly on your smart TV as most of the smart TVs will have a built-in free sat tuner.

Cuprajake

LMSC there’s free view and free sat, sky changed the sky q lnb so it wouldn’t work with free sat, their nice like that…

DavecUK

for £12.33 per month I have Amazon Prime, Netflix and Disney+ It gives me everything I need and more, for far less than the TV licence. I used to be a staunch defender of the BBC only 5 or 6 years ago. Unfortunately the programming has become increasingly woke, preachy and biased. They no longer make programs of any interest to me. My watching of BBC gradually dropped to nothing over a 5 year period, there was absolutely nothing I wanted to watch, I hate adverts, so really I had no choice. I now pay £1 less per month for significantly more and I still have all the crap on catchup (except Iplayer) if I want it.

The example of how bad it’s got, I just looked at tonight’s programming: from 18:15:

Antiques Roadshow (repeat, old episode from 2018)
Countryfile
Top Gear
The Outlaws
News
Weather
Sully (2016 Movie)

Not exactly inspiring programming for Sunday peak viewing.

LMSC

DavecUK £12.33 per month I have Amazon Prime, Netflix and Disney+

That’s very cheap.

The Prime costs £79 a year = £6.58 a month
Netflix = £11 a month for two licence (dual view)
Disney = £5 a month

Very happy and a plenty, tbh. We hardly get time to watch anything. We also have a couple of licences for my wife’s Indian soap operas! 😊

MediumRoastSteam

DavecUK for £12.33 per month I have Amazon Prime, Netflix and Disney+

How’s that possible? Did you get a discount?

If Prime costs £6.58 a month, Disney £5, and the cheapest Netflix £6.99… that’s a lot more than £13…

Cuprajake

And most of the big TV series drama seem to just be rehashed stories.

CoyoteOldMan

Cuprajake Mind you - that seems to be true in general: a lot of “new releases” nowadays are franchise extensions or remakes…

DavecUK

LMSC Sharing is caring………….. 🤣

LMSC

MediumRoastSteam Exactly, I posted our rates having the same doubt. Btw, the disney+ subscription has gone up to £80 a year or about £8 a month.

“sharing is caring” gives Dave £12.33 a month! 😁

DavecUK

LMSC Actually it’s 50p more than I said cos NF raised their prices. What’s that old song.

MediumRoastSteam

DavecUK Actually it’s 50o more

I’m still confused:

6.58 + 6.99 + 5 = that’s a lot more than 50p, more like £5! And it doesn’t take into consideration Disney’s price increase.

LMSC

MediumRoastSteam Prime price is based on paying annually, like Disney.

DavecUK

MediumRoastSteam I will break it down for you when I next see you.

Oh and NF is only 10.99 per month unless you allowed the rip off for 4K pricing of 15.99 I believe cos most of it is simply upscaled.

MediumRoastSteam

DavecUK Oh and NF is only 10.99 per month

I know, I have it! And now I’m even more confused with your maths! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

LMSC Prime price is based on paying annually, like Disney.

I know, I’m a subscriber. 👍

Someone either has a great deal for £12.33 for the three of them or I can’t add up! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

LMSC

DavecUK will break it down for you when I next see you.

Giphy - Whisper Talking GIF by NBC

😂

dfk41

The cricket……and it is going quite well considering the mountain England have to climb!

DavecUK

MediumRoastSteam

NF 10.99/2= £5.50 pm

Disney+1 year sub 80/2=40/12= £3.33 pm

Prime 7.99/2=£4 pm

Add em all together = £12.83 pm

MediumRoastSteam

DavecUK - I see! But why is it divided by two?

Edit: Ok… I missed the key bit: “sharing is caring”…. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

LMSC

Giphy - Kenan Thompson Snl GIF by Saturday Night Live

DavecUK

MediumRoastSteam I even put the song by Marvin Gay and Kim weston…It takes tooo ooh baaby….something something

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