I’ve made it pretty obvious how much I love the Super Jolly but I’m considering an upgrade. The only criteria really is that it’s a large flat and significantly better than the SJ. I drink mainly medium roasts. I don’t single dose so retention isn’t an issue. Strong preference for ‘traditional’ grinders so along the lines of Eureka, MK, Ceado, Mazzer. I don’t love the look of what I call ‘space age’ grinders. Budget isn’t really set in stone, I’d love to spend less than 1500 but if it’s going to be an endgame grinder I’d consider it. Used is also fine. It’s probably a thread in itself but the E65S is on the list. But I read conflicting reports about how good it actually is for espresso. I guess another issue with my search is that a lot of the selling points of some of this type of grinder is speed improvements for commercial settings which isn’t really as relevant for home. Thanks!

@"Ernie1"#p33128 I'm quite happy with my Ceado E37S. If you live 'near' me (I'm near Oxford), more than happy to let you test it.

@"Ernie1"#p33128 DF83? Otherwise, SJ’s bigger sister major, which is up for sale here. You can throw in the used SSP HU 83, which Jake has put up for sale.

Thank. The DF83 isn’t a bad looking grinder I’d just prefer something from a company with more heritage. Probably a bit of an irrelevant factor but if I’m spending big sums I like buying into companies that have been around for many many years. @"CoyoteOldMan"#510 nice, thanks, that’s on the shortlist too! Oxford isn’t a million miles away actually, the other half has friends there so next time we’re nearby I’ll be in touch!

I am bound to say it owning one, but The Niche Zero has an unrivalled reputation on all fronts for medium/plus beans. Sorry, but it is a fact that you cannot get away with!

@"dfk41"#4 Am I imagining it or did you once mentioned you’d owned a Mythos also? That’s high praise for the Niche. It’s so tempting, I’ve been debating it for basically a year. I’d keep the SJ but sell the C40 if I got a Niche.

@"Ernie1"#p33135 Over the years, I have owned several. In the days when I was working and often used to make several cups on the go, then they were unbeatable! I preferred the original Mythos One to the slow spin variety thinking the taste was superior. The timed dosing was reasonably accurate but you have to be prepared to accept that you cannot get the same accuracy as single dosing. I was never into trying to mod it for single dosing though. When I retired the need for multiple drinks went away and the ease of use of the Niche won it for me. With the burrs being mounted at 45 degrees then there is nowhere for the coffee to go, except down the chute. This means that retention is very low. Brilliant grinders......if you need a hopper fed system!

Really helpful thanks. Pound for pound it’s really difficult to justify something like a Mythos or EK when I could buy 3 or 4 Niches for the sake money. I wasn’t expecting Niche to be the answer to this thread but looks like it might be!

Major and stock burrs or SSP if you like really fruity. I can't justify well over a grand for a grinder like that, esp when imo theres no where near a grands worth difference between them. You really are not missing out as much as people lead you to believe

Niche Zero seems as an elegant/cheap-ish solution. A second hand Mythos One with £100-ish for a Nuova Simonelli titanium burrs can also be something to consider. When you mentioned "big" in opening post I assumed you were after a 83 mm burrs plus.

@"Cuprajake"#144 Thanks yeah seems like this could be a case of upgraditis. An extra £1000 is an enormous sum for a minor upgrade.

Grinder recommendations

Cuprajake

I don’t really buy in to heritage

There’s very few companies who are actually worth it anymore.

If you buy new and don’t like. Return it

Most stuff these days is up to the job.

Just some better than others.

FYI niche is 10yrs old next yr

DavecUK

Cuprajake It is, that’s when Martin registered the company (June 2013) and I think had been working on the project 1 year before that. 3 years and a lot of prototypes later…he met up with me around May 2016, that’s when I first started using the Niche,…so 6.5 years for me now. The oldest grinders in the field I think have been out just over 4 years and there’s a LOT of 4 year old grinders out there..

Ernie1

Thanks for all the replies.

I’m just going to keep the Super Jolly. I’ve no doubt all the grinders mentioned are fantastic but single dosing would be a workflow change and as has been pointed out, spending £1500-2000 isn’t likely to taste as good as £1500 worth of different coffees to try.

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