Well in expensive and a counter top generally don’t go hand in hand,
The cheapest option is rodi setup, £60-80 will last a year or two.
But it means adding under a sink or in a garage if you have space
There are other options but I’ve not used them.
Decent De1pro v1.45 - Niche Duo - Niche Zero - Decent is the best machine ever made -
JesmondJester Bottled water with the right composition is an option, depending on how much you think you will use.
The link doesn’t work correctly for me?
I’ve got what I suppose a lot of people would say is an expensive (yes, yes, overpriced) machine. I use Waitrose Lockhills.
It isn’t perfect but it’s cheap, quick, zero faff, and if/when it becomes an issue I’ll worry about it then.
Take from that what you will!
JesmondJester I don’t want to be a Hoffman fan boy and I am happy to be led but struggle to wade (pun intended) through lots of information about what is “right” and his information is so accessible.
The answer may be as simple as buy a Brita and see what you think. Or that and BTW and compare. Or Zero Water and a few sachets and try them and see which you like best.
I don’t recall Hoffmann having any information about water.
You don’t need any sachets of anything with the Zero jug. See if you can get an alkalinity reading (in mg/L CaCO3) from your water supplier. You know the Zero jug water will be 0, so mix your water to get around 50g/L alkalinity.
So say your water is 150mg/L use 1 part tap to 2 parts Zero jug water, takes moments to mix in a kettle/jug on scales.
A KH/Alkalinity drop kit is handy, you could then check results with a BWT jug too.
Making coffee is more like cooking than an ology. Easier than a lot of cooking which commonly has more than 2 ingredients 😀
Sorry guys - I posted what I thought was a picture of the make-up of my water but didn’t check the post afterwards.
Try this.
I’d be fine to run with the bottled water solution. I probably use 600ml a day at the moment. My main concern with this is the plastic bottle waste and collection / storage of them. First world problems.
Thanks!
I like the idea of mixing enough in bulk to use over the course of a week and just do the mixing once.
The other thing is, mixing with tap water which has such variance in the alkalinity concerns me. I’d love to know I am using the same water every time, for every cup no matter the method of brewing.
And it be cheap.
And be easy.
I don’t ask much do I? :-)
I cycle a fair amount and there is quote made famous by bike designer Keith Bontrager concerning the manufacture of bikes. “Cheap, light, strong - pick two”.
I think this is going to be the same. “Cheap, easy, no waste”
Zero filter jug and third wave water sachet for easy, or bicarb for cheap.
Both relatively cheap options and replicable. Bicarb a starting point to let you experiment more.
JesmondJester I’d be fine to run with the bottled water solution. I probably use 600ml a day at the moment. My main concern with this is the plastic bottle waste and collection / storage of them. First world problems.
I suppose you could argue that’s a very real ‘world problem’!
600ml a day seems a lot, that’s 10-15 espressos at least with a bit of flushing.
A four-pack of 2L bottles is £1.65 and lasts me about 2 weeks.
I agree about the plastic waste, it’s really not ideal but we’re all both so I feel like we’re doing our bit in other ways 😂
MediumRoastSteam Both are from Armathwaite in Cumbria, maybe from different sources in the past? Maybe more recent test results?
MWJB MediumRoastSteam Both are from Armathwaite in Cumbria, maybe from different sources in the past? Maybe more recent test results?
Ashbeck label on the left, Lockhills on the right. Bought the bottles a while back, but if the labels can be trusted, and unless something changed recently - not the same.
I don’t know about lockhills but ashbeck has changed recently for me anyway and the bicarbonate is now 46mg which I believe is much more boiler friendly. Volvic is apparently the way to go but a lot more expensive than the Waitrose and Tesco own brands.
steve_07 I don’t know about lockhills but ashbeck has changed recently for me anyway and the bicarbonate is now 46mg which I believe is much more boiler friendly.
Can you maybe post a picture of the Ashbeck label with Bicarbonate at 46mg please? I just checked some newer bottles I have in the garage and mine are still showing 25mg. I will try to remember to have another look next time I’m at Tesco, but I think I bought those bottles only a few weeks ago.
Mine is the same, I just checked. I also notice that the Calcium has increased from 11mg to 17mg…
