Well, how about that! Niche just released an 83 mm flat burr grinder. Love my conical, but very interesting. They are using two burr sets: one for espresso and one for drip.

I backed the Timemore grinder. The Niche duo is twice the price but perhaps more likely to be reliable. I’m conflicted now…

Comes with two sets of burrs as standard, that's pretty good.

Anybody noted that the photo of the burrs show different rotation?

Hmmm all very interested and then its April 1st - bit as you can order it…. It does say its not shipping to July 2023. [URL=https://i.imgur.com/oRn6FKK.png][IMG]https://i.imgur.com/oRn6FKK.png[/IMG][/URL]

On the one hand this doesn’t seem weird enough to be an April Fool’s. A Niche with a massive hopper or something would’ve been more of a joke. On the other, for a machine known for it’s great workflow, it seems slightly weird to have to change burrs to switch coffee types as if anyone would actually just casually switch burrs multiple times a day.

Tbh the ‘sold with two burrs’ is the only thing that makes me question this.

> @"Ernie1"#p40980 slightly weird to have to change burrs to switch coffee types as if anyone would actually just casually switch burrs multiple times a day. You don’t need to. But if you want to grind correctly for filter (as in, be more optimised for that method, extract better flavours etc) you are better off with the more appropriate burr set.

@"Igm45"#p40981 Didn’t someone reference a patent entry in this forum a couple of weeks back which alluded to that very design? Edit: https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/47/93/9b/b7dc1dd206b3c3/WO2023274895A1.pdf

Niche flat burr released

tompoland

Milko interesting idea. Like a latch?

Milko

No idea really, far from an engineer myself! Maybe there’s a way to get a bolt in there that would be accessible by hand? It’d have to stick out though so I have no idea how. I just think that bit where you have to use the screwdriver is probably the most off-putting part of it to a consumer, quick and easy though it clearly is.

LMSC

Milko Perhaps, as in the case of the top burr that comes off, the entire burrs set can be lifted Not sure, how the engineering side of it would work when it is running.

dfk41

I love these theoretical discussions! So, a machine that lets you cover two different disciplines is not enough…..now folks want a quick release mechanism………sorry but I find that quite funny! In the 6 months I have been testing the grinder I have found the workflow including burr swaps to be quick and efficient and the prospect of having to spend under 10 seconds in undoing a screw never once put me off from making a drink! As I mentioned before, can anyone explain what they do if they want a brewed coffee and have an espresso grinder. Do folks think Omni burrs really exist and work despite some extraordinary claims made about them. I repeat my offer…..if you live in the vicinity of the North East, bring some beans along and have a play…….then you can see for yourselves what us testers are talking about!

Cuprajake

surely you’d need one fixed burr otherwise they would move up and down, i understand people when they say they might not change i also know its 60s lol

LMSC

Cuprajake

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Msmk0

Cuprajake Wait they discover there is such thing as “instant coffee”

MattH

LMSC Are you spying on me 😂

steve_07

I think it looks a great grinder. I am thinking about ordering one and then selling my zero to offset the cost a bit.

60s burr change doesn’t bother me at all. I wish it was cheaper (we all do but well priced i guess compared to other 83mm) but the fact alignment wont be an issue is a real plus for me!

I just need to decide if getting rid of the zero is necessary as there is no issue and I enjoy the coffee. I fortunately could afford both but I cant justify it.

DavecUK

steve_07 I just need to decide if getting rid of the zero is necessary as there is no issue and I enjoy the coffee. I fortunately could afford both but I cant justify it.

I think if you are on the fence and definitely want the Duo, the smart move would be to sell the Zero in your case. In truth although I have the Zero as well, I have not actually felt the need to use it since I got the Duo. Sure there may be the odd coffee where I want that conical vibe, or to take a grinder over to a friends house…or perhaps just have a second grinder on the bench…it’s a luxury though.

Nightrider_1uk

Now a Burr set tuned for filter to fit the Zero would be good. Is there such a thing?

LMSC

Nightrider_1uk Is there such a thing?

Niche Binary - 83 mm conical - is the next logical step! 😁

DavecUK

Nightrider_1uk Now a Burr set tuned for filter to fit the Zero would be good. Is there such a thing?

I think only there are a couple, one from sworks (58mm flat?) and the other from gorilla gear (73mm conical). I don’t know for sure as never tried the burrs myself, but I believe there have been issues with them.

Nightrider_1uk

LMSC Niche Binary - 83 mm conical - is the next logical step! 😁

😂😀probably, but then if I was looking to replace the grinder, i’d probably buy the Duo

Nightrider_1uk

DavecUK I was meaning a set go Filter tuned conical’s that would fit in the Zero

Grahamsphillips

Really interesting! The only thing I find slightly strange: some people might want an excellent espresso grinder ONLY. Others might want a great filter grinder ONLY. Some might want one grinder with the swappable burrs and others might want TWO Niche’s one with each set of burrs to save the hassle of swapping. A lot of coffee enthusiasts end up with an espresso grinder AND a filter grinder. I’m a little surprised you cant’ pick and mix ie basic purchase is the duo; pick one or both burr sets; optionally purchase two grinders and one of each burr set. Even at £1600 still works out cheaper than a P100 or any of the “high end” grinders.. esp if they gave a discount on “one of each” Duo

dfk41

Grahamsphillips One point, and I might be inventing this! I reckon if you tried to buy the burrs individually from wherever you could source them from, you would pay an awful lot more than the price Niche are charging through bulk purchase with Mazzer. @DavecUK stated that since he has been playing with the Duo, he has put his Zero away. I can confirm the same. I initially put the Zero away as I wanted to test the Duo properly and felt I could not do it justice otherwise.

This morning a friend came around with a Rwandan bean I had not had before. After 7 or 8 goes on the Duo I brought the Zero out to try the same bean. Whilst the texture of the shot was better the taste was definitely duller. This then got me thinking as to how much I had enjoyed then brewed coffee made on the Duo compared to simply opening up the grind using the Zero……yet when I had no choice, I had always been quite happy with the Zero’s attempt at brewed

DavecUK

Nightrider_1uk I was meaning a set go Filter tuned conical’s that would fit in the Zero

I have not tested any filter tuned conicals that fit the Zero, If a manufacturer wants to send me some I will happily try them and give my take on them. I think Tom has a set, or will be getting a set, so I am sure we will see his take on them soon.

Grahamsphillips

dfk41 Hi Dave! Wasn’t quite my point.. Lets assume grinder alone £600; grinder plus any burr £700; Grinder plus both burrs £800 (for the sake of argument) It means if you want ONLY and espresso grinder its an option; if you want ONLY a filter (ditto) and if you buy the current DUO, find you don’t want to keep swapping burrs you simply buy another base. Since NICHE already have to produce each of these anyway I reckon it would significantly benefit their sales.

Cuprajake

Look at the burr carrier

giampiero

It seems that the Duo it is a good candidate to become the real “Niche Zero Killer” after multiple tentative from others🤭.

Anyway, sadly in Thailand the retail price will skyrocketing due to the local customs duty fees, but i’m really intrigued by the Duo, will see.

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