Shipping July released today. it could of course be an April fools joke. Albeit a strange one… https://www.nichecoffee.co.uk/products/niche-duo?variant=43187239846019

@"Igm45"#p40972 Not an April fools joke….people have ordered.

Some time to launch! 😏 I see from the specs that it's physically bigger than the Zero….assuming this is - at least in part - to house a bigger motor for the flats?

I still believe it's April fool's, too good to be true….

@"[unknown]"#p41017 Have you seen he full manual you can download and read ?

@"MattH"#p41026 https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0081/2076/2450/files/N685_INSTRUCTION_BOOK_ROW_83F_1_080323_WEB.pdf?v=1680015642

Two excellent videos from Jake. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKdyBJ7TkhU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C90i5RVoBpo

@"DavecUK"#p41257 There are a couple of others there now too. (why does the plug change colour 🤔???)

> @"Del_UK"#p41290 (why does the plug change colour 🤔???) Dunno? RH Lead swaps colour as well in the starting clip

Can I chuck my hat into the ring? Right, first off, this is not an engineering review. I was lucky enough to be asked by Niche back in October, to accept the latest version of the Niche Duo. I had to sign an NDA and that was that. A couple of days later, a package turned up and I thought, I recognise that. On inspecting the packaging, it is quite clearly designed with the Zero experience in mind. The packaging has instructions printed on it for starters. Once you open the outer box, there is a strap/handle to help you lift the inner box meaning that you do not have to tip it upside down to force it out! I received a gleaming white model that arrived with espresso burrs fitted to it. A quick glance through the comprehensive handbook to make sure that there was nothing I needed to be aware of, and coffee here we come! When I dial in a new grinder, I always pull the first shot at whatever it arrives set to and take my reference from there. The third shot was spot on. 16 gms on an espresso setting takes me 16 seconds. I did not suffer from any static, the grounds were nice and fluffy. I believe the burrs originate from Mazzer (both espresso and brewed). Eventually, I thought it was time to try swapping the burrs over. Again, no help from Niche. They selected me as tester for their idiots instructions, and I feel well qualified for that role. I have made a video that I will post and it took me 70 seconds or so to swap over. You raise the lid, unscrew the silver dial, remove the screw to tighten down the top burr set, then remove it. Push down on the bottom burr set and remove. The process is then repeated with the brewed burrs (these are a different colour, blue) in reverse of course. I am deliberately keeping this summary vague! I have no idea as to how they get a big flat to be retention free. Having swapped the burrs over many times, and since access allows with ease, whenever I clean it out the retention is minimal. If I remember I will weigh it at some point but as any Niche Zero owners knows, you learn to trust your machine and just accept the claims! https://youtu.be/63Iv5gUy1JQ https://www.instagram.com/reel/CqlKJZjg_ZPsfdrHkp5cDIoL_KjSXhE5E5st-00/?igshid=Mzc1MmZhNjY=

@"Del_UK"#p41290 because I have a white extension lead, which I took out of the vid 😂

Niche duo - 83mm flat

Latte-Tart

Cuprajake

I knew you would, I almost tagged you.

It’s very light in my experience (which is great, I love it). But setting 2 was quite alarming. 16g in 48 out in 44s is where I’m at.

I’m new to dog and hat, but I don’t get there guide recipes at all. It’s like a 22s shot or something for most of there beans. Is that after first drip or something. Not for this thread but if you know…

Cuprajake

Well…

They run fast

This was 22g setting 10 from memory, in this basket

https://shop.squaremilecoffee.com/products/pullman-basket

With a bottom paper filter and a top screen

If you want a normal shot then go up to about 5 and you should be in the 30s range

Latte-Tart

That does run fast!!!

I’m dosing less than you, and want it running at 40s+ so setting 2 it is.

The results are great. Just can’t help but be curious.

Chriss29

tompoland I was looking at the Introvert bellows for my niche Zero, can I ask what you think of them please? I like the fact the lid can close with them in place.

tompoland

Chriss29 just ordered two more so yes, I like them.

What I like about them is that they are IMHO a visually elegant solution. They are not tall but still yield enough puff.

Shot a quick video for your viewing pleasure…

Cuprajake

https://instagram.com/introvertmakes?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

dfk41

tompoland £22 plus shipping!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am pleased I am a Luddite

Chriss29

tompoland Thanks very much, they look fairly useful. I’m not sure how well they’ll work on my zero as that generally needs a good slap after a grind. Will do some more research.

Doram

dfk41 tompoland £22 plus shipping!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am pleased I am a Luddite

This does the same thing (and for function, probably better) for £4.27. If you want the elegant, custom made one, it’s £29 (shipping included).

tompoland

dfk41 its the irrational obessesion with elegance that I pay dearly for … must be my Italian ancestors who are to blame.

Chriss29

Doram Thanks but can you close the lid with this on?

tompoland

Doram thanks, they actually work very well but just struggled with the idea that they were breast pumps. Or maybe that should have added to the appeal ???

JammyDodger

I don’t tend to use bellows on my Niche Zero, I’m happy to live with the very small amount of retained grinds. I have used a silicone back flush disc as a small bellows which works well, however I decided the faff wasn’t worth it. The disc I used was included with my previous Sage Dual Boiler, but you can find them on amazon for about £2-3.

DavecUK

JammyDodger I don’t tend to use a bellows on my Niche Zero, I’m happy to live with the very small amount of retained grinds.

I really don’t know why people use bellows…dose consistency will even out if you don’t and the amount of retained grinds that exchange into the next dose is so small…you wouldn’t be able to taste it.

Chriss29

JammyDodger I have one of these so will give it a try!

tompoland

JammyDodger agree the bellows are not needed, the Introvert device is simply there so I don’t have to see the popcorning. Hoping the Niche go with DaveC’s recommendation because whilst it is very minor, it’s also un-Niche like.

Doram

DavecUK you wouldn’t be able to taste it.

Personally I use the bellows to avoid the coffee drop on the base, not for the taste.

Doram

Chriss29 Doram Thanks but can you close the lid with this on?

Nope, it’s too tall with the handle to fit under the lid (that’s the less elegant bit). I keep mine on the counter

tompoland just struggled with the idea that they were breast pumps.

Do you mean a “Cup Baby Palm Sputum Burping Helper Accessories Soft Cupping Spitting Mom Care Silicone Physiotherapy”? :-) For me it’s a a Niche bellows.

JammyDodger

Chriss29 ah nice! It fits inside the closed lid quite happily. I originally used it before Niche came out with the anti-popcorn disc to reduce popcorning.

tompoland

Doram yeah nah, not really into the whole sputum thing 😁 but hey, if what someone does in the privacy of their own coffee island ….

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