chlorox the manufacturer has reverted to me on the safety pressure valve or switch for the boilers. The nurri leva does have this feature. Funny that despite your vaunted engineering credentials you failed to recognise or notice the safety switch in the photos Tom posted!
Could you indicate those on the photos Tom posted please, this will ensure that the correct information is out there for people reading this thread. My eyes are not what they used to be, but I can’t actually see any limit stats on the boilers in Toms photos and if I can’t, I am pretty sure other people won’t be able to. The reference was specifically made to limit stats (thermal breakers). I can see safety valves, as at least one system is required for certification. manufacturers usually install both a safety valve and limit stat sometimes even adding a second limit stat on the same boiler. I have photos of this configuration below on an ECM barista Max (ECM commonly do this). The 2 l;imit stats are circled and a red line to the safety valve…there is a PID as well of course.
chlorox Also the pid in addition has a maximum temperature limit to further guard against dangerous pressure increases.
That’s a standard feature in all Gicar,l Giemmie and Proelind PID systems commonly used on coffee machines.
chlorox if u have proof that the nurri doesn’t have certification as the manufacturer assures and despite European retailers retailing it throughoutbthe EU, u should prove this allegation instead of continuing to double down on your insinuations.
To again put this one to bed, it is not possible for an uncertified machine to be sold legally, so of course it has certification. There will be no poof that it has not.
@solari You need to be very careful in some of the things you state. I think it’s fine to state proper facts, as long as you are 100% certain they are correct, but in many areas your knowledge is insufficient to make certain statements. Those comments can affect a manufacturers sales when read out of context and on this forum I like things to be technically correct. Hence my comments above. I don’t have much time to go through posts to try and correct people/things, but it is important.
solari The upgradig firmware it’s a trick because if the machine is equipped with a Gicar box standard pid (i suppose from the display) you need a programmer, a software and some skill, of course with if you have this things you can update a firmware
You don’t know this for a fact, or what Gicar/other circuit board the Nurri uses, or how it’s upgraded. It also may be a machine that doesn’t require many/any firmware upgrades.
solari There are a lot of things where i read “i can live with it” but if you buy a Mercedes your perception of quality should be indisputable and i don’t think that save a 25% change the sistuation but of course it’s always a personal point of view.
As you finally say, it’s a personal point of view, if they can live with it, then perhaps others can too…clearly if you don’t like it that’s fine, but try and say "I don’t like X because of Y, rather than criticise.
solari So it seems an advertising more than a review as well as some could be a teasers!!!!
You should not be attacking the poster for your perception, we don’t do that on this forum. There is nothing there to indicate it is an advert, just a customer posting their user perception of the machine. If it helps others decide, then that’s a good thing.
solari Also always from the photos i didn’t see any safety limit switch on the boilers, on the steam boiler could be in the bottom but on the brew boiler i don’t think that it could be possible due of dimension of the heating element, if it is lie i suppose it’s a very bad thing especially for safety reason and it’s unbelievable that a project not include a protection and i don’t think that could take any certification as it is.
Again speculation, you should ask before speculating, as it could indeed be on the bottom of the boiler (unusual but not impossible) and for your information a limit stat is not required for certification, in fact I have seen certified machines without a safety valve and just limit stats (which I personally would consider unsafe).
I can’t be bothered to go through everything, I don’t have the time, but please leave the emotions at the door and stick to the facts. @solari you have joined the forum and your first few posts have been quite unusual. it seems you have a problem with the Nurri and by posting it, it is now on the internet for all to see, If it was all clinically factual, it wouldn’t be so bad…but it’s not and much of it is wrong. I have seen many criticisms levelled at the Evo as well since launch, many of them completely wrong technically and sometimes factually.
One example was a statement (can’t remember where now), that the Nurri was better because it has removable copper sheathed heating elements compared to welded in ones on the Evo (Incolloy 800). A statement that is completely incorrect for many technical reasons which I can’t be bothered to go into. In fact I think I recognise the brew boiler on the Nurri, it’s looks the same as used in the Vesuvius pressure profiling machine.
I’m not going to shut this thread down as I think it’s a valuable thread for Nurri owners and potential owners, but I would like the disruption to stop!
