Coffee with Duo

LMSC

@MWJB, Hario had sent some 02 filter papers along with the 02 switch. Unlike the project water fall paper, this was crepe both inside and outside, but not similarly textured. I was thinking if this is from Holland.

ST30B

MWJB
Would like the ability to do either really, got the 03 for the ability to split brews when required.
This is all new to me but everything I’ve followed suggests the ‘pour’ is an essential part of achieving a quality brew?

MWJB

ST30B It is for pour over/percolation where you are dictating the pour rate & speed of extraction by rinsing out the grinds, less so for immersion/steeps where you are holding the water & coffee together and the grinds are leeching more slowly into the sitting water.

Adrianmsmith

MWJB
So how would you describe the differences in taste of….

Ftom what i understand these 2 would be similar, a switch and an ikea french press (are they dimilar)
And a true pour over with all the related faff 🤪🤭

Genuine question, not a dig, from someone who enjoys the simplicity (relatively) of an espresso. Still trying to decide if to take the plunge on a switch to try.

MWJB

Adrianmsmith

Long story short, brewers don’t really make coffee ‘taste different’ (within reasonable expectation, bearing in mind identically made cups rarely taste identical), all else being equal, filter papers/lack of filters make a bigger difference and the amount of suspended silt affects mouthfeel/perception of body.

But to answer your points…

A French press has no paper filter (some Espro models do have a filter option, but I have not found these helpful, compared to longer steeps where things can settle), so in many cases a French press will have more silt in the cup compared to a Switch immersion only brew. The silt does not count towards extraction and doesn’t really carry any flavour compounds, though ground up bits of burnt wood in your drink tend to make it more bitter in a malfunction and typically thicken the mouthfeel. In my experience, you can get a decent extraction in a Switch at a coarser grind & faster (about 5min) than a small French press. Long steep French presses can be very clean, but take more time (20min minimum, fine grind, for a small glass press, 40-60min, medium grind, for large & insulated presses). The way most people make a French press produces awful, under-extracted, silty coffee, so I’d say if you want to make a cup in around 5min, purely through immersion, then the Switch is the better bet. Either brewer, in optimum conditions, produce equivalent cups.
There is no more related faff with pour over. Any brew method requires you to dose consistently at the required grind setting and introduce the amount of water that gives you your preferred strength range. If you just let the coffee sit & steep, this will take longer than pouring in controlled, timed pours with a pour over. The difference is timing the pour of the water vs timing the steep, but in both cases you get what you ‘make’. I mostly use my Switch to make pour over, just using the switch function to preheat the brewer. I do this because it’s quicker than steeping, I find it less faff. Good brews with either approach, or a hybrid approach, will be equivalent once dialed in (if so, you rarely, if ever, need to change grind setting) and carried out consistently.

LMSC

Tim Wendelboe’s Honduras Finca El Puente Geisha is honestly one of the brightest coffee I’ve had in years. Super light-bodied, loads of currant fruit, and a little floral thing happening at the end that keeps it interesting without getting weird.

Brewing it as filter on the Switch and the Filter 3 basket on the Decent was straightforward at 12% and 400 Kruve. Everything came out balanced, sweet, and delicate — basically the coffee behaving as it should.

Dialling it in as espresso, though… yeah, that was a journey. On the Evo at 94°C/100°C and the Decent (eventually 90°C from 94°C), it didn’t exactly roll out the red carpet. Nice and drinkable, sure, but definitely happier as a filter. If someone served it to me that way again, I’d be perfectly content.

Relative average score: 8/9.

https://visualizer.coffee/shots/9e1bca46-b9c8-4041-82c6-7553fc2b0f17

LMSC

Decent Filter 3 basket profile which I had created can be viewed here:

https://visualizer.coffee/shots/4e222cd7-7103-4214-92b8-6a9fe0dae86c

Edit:

Although it turned out well, I am still tweaking and experimenting with this.

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