DF64 Gen 2
Pre order price £429 from Bella Barista. Wow - that’s a good price.
I paid £365 direct, roughly £355 for the grinder and shipping and then I was charged £10 non sterling transaction fee by my bank.
That’s a result!
@tompoland how would you compare the DLC burrs on the DF64 Gen2 to the Mazzer espresso burrs on the Niche Duo.
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tompoland I really don’t like the DF83 v1 or v2. I’ve had trouble with three of them in regard to the collar misthreading as I’ve screwed them back on.
Not sure if this will change your mind, but if you’ve taken the collar completely off, giving the collar a turn counter-clockwise before starting to screw it back in place takes care of any misthreading issues. This is a pretty standard technique for using screw threads.
I’m more content to leave things be when I have my DF83 dialed in, and I’m pretty lazy about cleaning out my grinder. The net result is that I can easily go several months before I have to take the DF83 collar completely off. If I was doing a lot of comparison testing, I might be more annoyed by this.
And good luck with the website and YT channel! Looking forward to it.
drdre89 the DF64 Gen 2 don’t have DLC burrs (hope this does not appear pedantic) but rather an uncoated version of the DF DLC burrs that come with the DF64V. Both being DF 64mm burrs, only one being coated with the “Diamond Like Coating” that Gorilla Gear also use.
To answer your question though, I find (personal opninion, subjective etcetera) that the Mazzer 151B espesso burrs that come with the Duo offer a very traditional, smooth and inoffensive espresso. Silky smooth in fact. By comparision, the DF64 Gen 2 DF uncoasted burrs produce a stronger flavor - brighter with nut-like notes. Not better or worse than the Mazzer but distinctly different.
The BIG suprise for me was that the DLC version of exactly the same DF burr set (as in the DF54 Gen 2) offer more choc-like flavors and are especially well suited to milk based espresso.
My picks of those 3 burrs: Mazzer 151B for light or medium light espresso, DF DLC for choc-like milk based and DF uncoated for nut-like milk based.
And that’s why everyone needs at least two grinders, and three if they enjoy filter as well as espresso!
tompoland I really don’t like the DF83 v1 or v2. I’ve had trouble with three of them in regard to the collar misthreading as I’ve screwed them back on.
I got the impression that the 64v2 was heavily modelled on the 83’s burr chamber, wave spring and adjustment mechanism etc. - is there a noticeable difference between the actual threads on the 64v2 versus the 83s?
FadedFrontiers just to be clear you probably meant df64 gen 2?
they have had DF64 up to v5, and just recently released gen 2. think of it is 1.5 vs 2.0 :)
FadedFrontiers . - is there a noticeable difference between the actual threads on the 64v2 versus the 83s?
Yep. The threads on the DF64 Gen 2 is more like Niche Zero / Duo threads.
Been following this thread with a lot of interest as I’m wanting to upgrade my Mignon Speciality grinder since purchasing my ECM E61 machine.
We tend to drink mostly flat white’s using a darkish roast. I was looking at the Niche Zero but now thinking about the DF64 gen2.
Would it be worth upgrading to different burrs at the time of purchasing from the stock ones? If so, what would be a good choice from the various burr sets they offer.
I know its a personal choice but happy to take advised from guys here that are a lot more knowledgeable than me on this.
tompoland that’s great, I hadn’t seen it mentioned anywhere - a big improvement then
delta76 - the threads of the grinder, where the collar (threads) screws into the grinder’s body (threads).
coffeelover Would it be worth upgrading to different burrs at the time of purchasing from the stock ones? If so, what would be a good choice from the various burr sets they offer.
I thought about this when I ordered my DF83. Ultimately, I decided to go with the stock burrs to start.
For the DF83, there was no cost savings if you ordered a different set of burrs when ordering the grinder. So it didn’t matter much if I got the different burrs immediately, or if I waited a while to order them.
As it turns out, I was really satisfied with the original burrs, and never ordered another set.
So I would just go with the burrs that come with the DF64 gen2, and see how you like them. Take some time so you get a good feel for what the stock burrs can and can’t do. At that point, you can decide if you want to replace the burrs. More importantly, you’ll have a better idea as to what you’ll want the the second set of burrs to do for your coffee.
wilburpan For the DF83, there was no cost savings if you ordered a different set of burrs when ordering the grinder. So it didn’t matter much if I got the different burrs immediately, or if I waited a while to order them.
With the Turin website, there is a bug that gives a $29 discount if ordering DLC burrs. $629+$99=699. Probably only applicable to Americans.
MediumRoastSteam still no clue - google search for images also does not help much
coffeelover Would it be worth upgrading to different burrs at the time of purchasing from the stock ones? If so, what would be a good choice from the various burr sets they offer.
The DF DLC burrs are worth getting especially for milk based drinks.