Confession #1: I was never a big fan of the original DF64 but the V won me over, big time. Confession #2: I had similar feelings about the DF83. I wanted to like it. I tried to like it (I bought two of them and had a 3rd unit sent to me by a very supportive Australian importer, Frank A at Coffee Tech). I've been expecting a DF83V for some time now. Little birdies were saying December. It may be a little later than that but here's a sneak peak. No details yet but it's clear that they have gone back to the drawing board on this one. That said, yes, it's got variable RPM which I'm personally a big fan of. This was NOT what I was expecting, prepare to be surprised. [VIDEO]https://youtu.be/zZlzG1KsFz0?si=4fploUkTggOHwHmL[/VIDEO]

> @"tompoland"#p56988 I tried to like it (I bought two of them and had a 3rd unit sent to me by… We’re you hoping that, if you had more of them, you’d like them more? 🤪

@"MediumRoastSteam"#p56989 that is funny. I never really got passed the problem of misthreading the collar. Initially I thought it was simply an issue with one grinder. But after misthreading three of them I decided to give them a miss altogether. I had the same issue with 2 out of 4 DF64s (gen 1). Remember too this was pre-Duo. I wanted a pair of 83mm flats for side by side testing. Aluminium of aluminium as best I could tell. And I'm probably not the most subtle of users.

Interesting change of design, like many I was just expecting a larger 64v! Small point but feel like these would be a lot better with analogue rpm dials, still they seem to do the job fine.

@"tompoland"#p56988 Now we r talking! A vertical EK type grinder at 83mm to minimise retention with variable rpm going down as low as 300 and which can achieve zero retention without using bellows (my greatest peeve about the df64)? If they can keep the price to the same range as how the df64v differs from the df64 and with ssp burrs added, where do I sign up?!

@"FadedFrontiers"#p56991 I quite like the led indicator though !

And another video ... [https://youtube.com/shorts/UlEuGtGwnfo?si=-6THQ-QmLfzDHYx5](https://)

DF83V (expect the unexpected)

tompoland

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chlorox

This could be what the sculptor failed to become with its proprietary size and with its burrs being unsuited for light roasts clarity forward beans. Personally a similar df98v would be perfect but this would be a great way to tide over till then.

drdre89

Does this have the plasma generator to reduce static without rdt?

tompoland

drdre89 no details released yet, we’re at the start of the teasing phase.

My guess would be yes. DF put one into the DF64 Gen 2 and this bad boy has enough room for one.

chlorox

A home barista forum member just notified the price is $899. No idea how he came to know of the price so far.

tompoland

chlorox that’s not what I heard.

I was told US$900 (plus shipping) so you are way off 😃!!!

drdre89

tompoland I was told US$900 (plus shipping) so you are way off 😃!!!

Loonster

And a side profile.

Loonster

Another video

Loonster

The hopper to auger transition needs a guard to keep out fingers.

Example of a Guard-Opening Scale

They really need to purchase and use one.

tompoland

Loonster you may have a point regarding the augur.

Is it just the Niches that have the little safety switch which prevents the grinder operating unless the lid is down?

Trying to think of other grinders that have something similar.

The Olympia Moca SD has the trapdoor which achieves the same thing.

But I think that with most other grinders, you can turn them on and then stick your fingers in but you’d probably need small fingers to get to the burrs. By comparision, that augur has quite a large open cavity above it.

chlorox

Loonster

Yes I agree that would be a good idea. Auch a guard is missing from the original d64 as well.

MediumRoastSteam

It still baffles me when reviewers say “it’s a very quiet grinder” - and they run the grinder without beans… Speaking for myself, 99% of the time I run my grinder with beans on the hopper in order to grind them. Or maybe I’m missing something.

DavecUK

MediumRoastSteam It still baffles me when reviewers say “it’s a very quiet grinder” - and they run the grinder without beans… Speaking for myself, 99% of the time I run my grinder with beans on the hopper in order to grind them. Or maybe I’m missing something.

Because they are trying to shill the product, not actually meaningfully review it. You are quite right of course, they run the grinder no music, then show a few seconds of jump cut grinding with music. After which they ooh and ahh about how quiet it is.

In reality a grinder that is 60db empty and 74db with coffee, will be just as loud as a grinder that’s 43db empty and 74 db full….cos that’s how it works.

tompoland

I know that it’s in the eye of the beholder by my oh my, that’s about the last grinder in the world I’d describe as “a beautiful grinder”.

I’m looking forward to getting hold of one and I need to reserve judgement of course but I’m not excited for it like I was with the DF64V. It’s just hard for me to imagine that it’s going to outshine the Duo. But the coffee world is full of surprises.

No mention of an ionizer.

I like the idea of an augur and the idea of variable RPM but I’m still left wondering if both of these are just that: an idea, as yet unproven in regard to making a difference in the cup. Blind test testing to follow.

But whatever the conclusion, it’s going to be interesting to put it through it’s paces.

chlorox

tompoland

I hope it will have a de-ionizer. It looks good enough aesthetically to me to better the df64 family and the df83 so that’s good enough for me if it works well.

Loonster

tompoland Is it just the Niches that have the little safety switch which prevents the grinder operating unless the lid is down?

Trying to think of other grinders that have something similar.

Many grinders have a bean diverter at the bottom of the hopper that also doubles as a guard. The df83V doesn’t have a guard that I can see and the the hopper is removable without tools. With kids in the house, this is idiotic .

Loonster

The video I uploaded is from Joe of https://www.espressooutlet.net/ and https://www.turingrinders.com/

The video is pretty much a sales demo. He was very upfront about it. Much more ethical than the influencers with a pay to play game where if you pay, they shill.

giampiero

This week there is an exhibition here in Bangkok, i’ll try to take a video of the grinder at works.

Loonster

chlorox I think I saw that it won’t due to the all metal construction and risk of electrical shock.

Edit: Maybe this is why they don’t have it.

DF64Gen2 shocking user with static build up.