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Goodfella I have the Synchronika and have been very happy with it. Great steam and plenty of it and really nice quality to the exterior - I’m sure you’ll be pleased with your purchase. Just remember its super heavy and you might need some help getting it out of the box and up on the counter ! As for value for money, well if your using something every day and its part of your kitchen, then you may well need to take aesthetics into consideration and that includes the weight and feel of the components, levers, handles etc.

My favourite definition of ‘value’ is “the perceived benefits, usefulness, and importance of something". It means that value is entirely subjective. For some the La Marzocco Linea Mini is overpriced for it’s technical functions for others it’s a joy to see every morning - just as my Synchronika is for me when I stumble into the kitchen on a Sunday morning…

Ernie1 The Bianca is a great machine at a really good price.

Goodfella What did you end up with? Is it Bianca or Vesuvius or something else ? Thx

LMSC

Goodfella So I have chosen a machine! I am going to be getting an ECM Synchronika

Very nice, enjoy👍

Goodfella Very nice! Well done and enjoy your coffee making.

Goodfella Should the Porta Filter live in the group head even when it’s off? When I got my Oracle the Sage guy told me it should only be in when heating up.

It’s ok to leave. I always lock it back even when the machine is off.

Goodfella Should the Porta Filter live in the group head even when it’s off? When I got my Oracle the Sage guy told me it should only be in when heating up.

Locke it in lightly, not as hard as you would when making a coffee. When you use the timer, having it gently locked in is essential.

Goodfella Lovely looking setup and tamper station looks great..

Goodfella Should the Porta Filter live in the group head even when it’s off

Mine does - but somehow I often find a used puck in there a few days later..

Ernie1 Yet another vote for the Bianca, I’ve had mine three months and still look forward to using it every day.

I suppose looks are subjective but to me it has the aesthetic appeal of a classic car or a well-kept Vincent motorbike.

Did someone mention Vincents?

Actually, I’ve often thought that there are parallels between the Evo Leva and the early post war Vincent twins; no compromise quality and performance, put together using parts from other machines in the range in an innovative compact design, competition beating performance from the off, no shortage of detractors most of which have never used one.

If you think that posh coffee machines are a rabbit hole leading down into a money pit…😄

Sorry, got carried away there, didn’t mean to derail the thread.

Norvin put together using parts from other machines in the range in an innovative compact design, competition beating performance from the off, no shortage of detractors most of which have never used one.

That’s about right…there did seem to be a group of people who really didn’t like the fact it existed…even the lever mag issue 4 made a revealing comment about that…if people spotted it.

Apart from a certain group, others seem pleased…The Niche Grinder, was also disliked by, a certain group don’t seem to like…if the Vesuvius Evo does anything, it will disrupt the market for the better. It’s indisputable how good Niche has been for the grinder market as competing grinders have come out. Finally, people don’t have to buy used commercial grinders any more….

I am sure the Evo will help in reviving the lever market and driving innovation, especially for those manufacturers who have been a little lazy about the design process for their levers…The competition is healthy and may even have kept prices down!

DavecUK That’s about right…there did seem to be a group of people who really didn’t like the fact it existed…even the lever mag issue 4 made a revealing comment about that…if people spotted it.

The rabid pro Londinium trolls are easy to spot, I was reading this review the other day, linked in a post by @Beverast https://www.coffeegeek.com/new-products/modern-lever-espresso-that-wont-break-the-bank-the-argos/?fbclid=IwAR1F607V7pSKhAgQMWAvEoVMMU8OYhfK-SzQTWGz5ihbsFW0kbZ_Ia8mS7c

I remember thinking ’this guy purports to follow the lever market closely (see first paragraph), yet he doesn’t even mention the Evo Leva. He is either incompetent or has deliberately ignored the most exciting development in lever design in years, which is it?'.

It’s beyond me.

Norvin