Mazzer Philos

Excitement builds!! Looking at the architecture it looks like someone in the UK too!

I have absolutely zero interest in what the influencers think of this one, it’s a day one purchase for me.

Looks great. I think I’ve read somewhere it’s between 900-100 euros.

Rumours on HB, so take this with a pinch of salt, are that the Philos has been delayed. Wouldn’t surprise me given the impact global conflicts on supply chains.

Yeah the retailers I’ve spoken to in the UK said they had no plans to stock it. Looks like it will indeed be Mazzer direct.

I can see the reviews being disappointing. There’s no shortage of low priced 64mm flats and people who don’t care about build quality, place of build and manufacturer heritage are going to say it’s overpriced and find plenty of flaws I’m sure.

It’s an interesting price point because you can get capable single dosers for half the price or less, and it’s obviously not going to compete with the top-end grinders like Kafateks etc. I think the only way this will sell well in the current market is if influencers really get behind it. Then again, I don’t think Mazzer necessarily need it to sell massively well as the home market still isn’t their bread and butter.

I’m excited for it and have said before, will be buying it regardless but I don’t expect it to be a flawless grinder.

depends really, the build should be better than that of the df and time mores, you would think, but its a saturated market

there has been a zerno fs and a kafatec and weber eg1 all around £1500 on the old forum

I’m more interested in the new Mazzer burrs they’re releasing with it at this point, like with their other machines I’m sure it’s built solidly but there’s some really unusual design decisions and the price tag which makes me think this could go the way of the ZM.

Personally the rear adjustment doesn’t bother me but I know some people got very irate about it.

The ZM is almost £3k, I appreciate £1k is a lot of money but it makes the Philos a lot more affordable.

HarveyMushman Personally, I cannot see this as being 1k. Perhaps Mazzer are spinning and will put a small amount up for sale at that price before the normal retail price kicks in. The ZM allegedly. had flaws. I know someone who had a couple he had bought slightly used from the importer and he had to sell them on the qt

HarveyMushman the rear placement plus large footprint will rule it out as an option for those of us with shelves or cupboards above our coffee counters, if you have more space I’m sure it isn’t a deal breaker.

I just meant that the ZM was a SD grinder that didn’t really take off - not questioning either grinders’ quality just their broader appeal.

Yeah fair point, all the promo stuff has been out in the open so under cupboards I can see it being impossible to easily see adjusment.

@dfk41 Yeah I’ll believe it when I see it. Will be great if it is £1k.

MattH The SJ has been around for donkeys with no real development or changes. The ZM was three times your wished for price for the new one. Me, I hope that it comes in at a grand as the more grinders in and around that price the better, but I will be;lieve it when I see it