Guys, just bought me a kilo of Grindhouse Murano decaff as a filler every few days between Hammerhead. Roasted yesterday, my question is do I wait for it to rest / off gas before freezing or can I just stick half a kilo in the freezer now? Does it matter?

I vaccum pack within a week or receiving it. If you can keep it in a cool, dry and dark place, then I don't think you need to freeze it if you are going to use within the next 2 or 3 months. I've been getting successful results doing just that. But if you plan to keep it for longer, then you might consider freezing it.

Cheers. I normally rest and then vacuum pack before sticking it in the freezer in 250g bags. That's normally when I order cheap delivery so technically the beans have already been off-gassing for around 5 days (post office slowness). This batch ordered next day, why I have no idea, so I'm asking because they are a lot fresher than normal. Will the off gassing slow or even stop in the freezer??

@"skylark"#p60434 - no idea. Don’t think my tastebuds can tell anyway. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@"skylark"#p60432 defintely wait. it needs to hit peak flavor by degassing first. I did a lot of freezing and for optimial results I found it lasts for at least 6 months depending on how cold you freezer is and ideally grind it before it thaws. Ideally. But try it yourself and see what you think. I found that the espresso was marginally thinner if I let it thaw first. Here's my guide (a lot of testing and logging has gone into this but the opinions of others may differ but be equally or more valid. (read what others think and as always, test and taste for yourself). [URL=https://i.imgur.com/ONg7BPV.jpg][IMG]https://i.imgur.com/ONg7BPV.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

Most things we give a week to 10 days post-roast, then vac pack and freeze in 1/2 kilo batches. Doesn't take long to defrost at room temp….then it performs well/fresh over the 4-5 days it gets used. Lighter roasts we have completely unscientifically decided do better after a while in the freezer. There have been many a batch we couldn't get on with that turned out well after being put in time-out to think about what they've done. 😄

I alwayd immediately freeze my beans upon receiving them. I leave them in the bag they came in and when I am ready to start using them, transfer them into re-useable glass jars with screw top lids that hold 36g each. I have never vacuum sealed them simply because I couldn't find bags small enough, plus storing loose bags on top of each other is more difficult (sliding about) and also once used, I am guessing the plastic bags are thrown away which is not good. However, I am willing to be corrected. [URL=https://i.imgur.com/scQEOD8.jpg][IMG]https://i.imgur.com/scQEOD8.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

> @"Pompeyexile"#p60463 I have never vacuum sealed them simply because I couldn’t find bags small enough, plus storing loose bags on top of each other is more difficult (sliding about) and also once used, I am guessing the plastic bags are thrown away which is not good. However, I am willing to be corrected. You can re-use the bags as many times as you want. Of course, you'll need to cut the bag open and re-seal it again - which means, every time you do that, you lose a little bit of the bag (like, a thin strip at the top where the seam of the seal is). To put in perspective, I've lost count the number of times I re-used the same bag.

I degass as per Tom’s chart then vacuum pack in 250g packs which lasts us 3 or 4 days in the Airscape. I keep some in the freezer but also keep some in the cupboard.

I roast and seal in valveless food grade mylar bags when warm…so after squeezing as much air as I can out, when they cool they take on a vacuum packed appearance. I have experimented with freezing and for me the best results are freezing them as soon as possible. I just bung em in the freezer. The "degassing", (a term I dislike because that's not what's happening)…the beans start producing CO2 again once they are removed from the freezer as those reactions that develop other flavours continue..and I leave them for a few days before use. That said, I usually try to avoid freezing….if I freeze beans after a period of time, then after freezing I use them immediately. In warm weather, the vegetable compartment of my fridge often has a lot of sealed mylar coffee bags in it.

@"MediumRoastSteam"#p60470 Once de-bagged I freeze my beans in 36g lots two double espresso's worth. Out of interest the vacuum bags you re-use how much do they hold? Are you cutting them open tippping out the required amount for a couple of shots then sealing them again? I don't think I could be bothered getting my machine out to re-seal a bag every time I wanted a coffee. Or as usual have I misunderstood and being as thick as a brick?

Freeze coffee?

Pompeyexile

So whenever I want a coffee I take one of my small 36g jars out of the freezer tip out 18g and put it immediately back in the freezer. I then grind my beans which are still frozen. All of which can’t take more than 40 seconds. So here is my question…should I be letting them thaw out and emit some C02 out before actually using them?

As for those of you vacuum sealing the beans and then freezing them…would putting them in an airscape can, pushing out the air and then putting that in the freezer do the same thing, thus saving on plastic bags? If you can do that with an airscape of course.

Zephyp

I see online that many just keep the bags in the freezer and dose directly in the freezer. Allegedly, just opening it to remove a dose or two isn’t a problem. I’ve been freezing whole 250g bags and letting the entire bag thaw, which is then used over the next 8-10 days, but I’m thinking about either dosing directly from the freezer, always keeping the bag in there, or dispensing the bag into smaller doses when I open it, using containers already in the freezer. Just opening the bag and pouring it into containers with 30-50 g in each.

Has anyone tried dosing straight from the freezer?

Doram

Zephyp Has anyone tried dosing straight from the freezer?

Did it for decaf coffee over the past couple of months (keep bags in freezer, dose and grind frozen beans and put bag back in the freezer). Found no problem doing this.

Didn’t try for non-decaf as didn’t feel the need, but I can’t see why not if this works for you. The easiest way to find out is to try for yourself: experiment and go with whatever you prefer.

Pompeyexile

I always dose straight from the freezer. I have whole bags in there and I also decant the bag I am using into glass jars with screw top lids that hold 36g each. The other day I actually had about a quarter of a bag and got distracted and left it out overnight. So, I left it out until I used it up. Can’t say I tasted any difference, but given my inability to flavour profile but go by, if it does not give me a face like a Bulldog chewing a wasp it is fine, then I am not the person you should be taking any advice from.

The reason I freeze all my coffee is convenience, rather than have 5, 6 or even 8 bags sat out on the counter top or in a cupboard.

There are many more clever people on here than me who will no doubt tell you different.

Zephyp

Thanks @Pompeyexile and @Doram.

Yeah, I’ll give it a go when the current bags are empty. Based on all I’ve read and watched on YT so far, it seems like a good way to go about it. I don’t have a particularly refined palate myself, but if I belive it’s better, maybe that’s enough. :D

Another advantage of dosing from the freezer or distributing into smaller containers is that you can keep multiple bags open at the same time without having both of them sit in room temperature for too long while using them. I like using two different kinds of coffee from day to day, but when one bag last 8-10 days, two would last 16-20.

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