Lever flavour profile? Moving from E61..

Tal I went from an e61 dual boiler to the flair 58+ but drink mostly med and dark roast so can’t comment on lighter roasts.

The flair heats to ~93′ so I would guess it’s not great for lighter roasts though, even with a temp kettle you might struggle to hit higher temperatures.

M5Sime Then you are close to me, I am in Byfleet Surrey. You are welcome to bring your coffee and try an Evo 2 anytime. It’s functionally the same as the Vostock.

dang2484

I prefer darker roasts at the moment also, I am tempted by a Pro 2 that is local to me advertised on the other forum….not the heated group 58

Tal I don’t want to highjack the thread, but I’m not disappointed moving to a manual lever (saved considerable amounts of money too!) There’s a few cons namely the less versatility and slightly more time, but quite a few pros for me that don’t make me regret it.

Thanks for the info, I have a fracino HX machine that it will go alongside, so it won’t replace anything as such. Just fancied a go at pressure profiling without upgrading to a very expensive machine!

M5Sime I got it, I shall reply tomorrow.

Tal oh OK, if it’s just to try a level and keep your machine maybe go the cheaper end, the 58 isn’t the cheapest but it is nice.

Feel free to PM me if you wanted to know a bit more 👍

M5Sime feel free to come and see us to have a play. We don’t sell domestic models but you can order directly from ACS for at home and we are happy to have you come over and play with the machine. Youri

M5Sime

I have had a similar experience.
I loved my V2 Bianca and keenly followed the EVO development but was not interested in buying one.
I ordered a Vostok almost as soon as it became available.
I understand folks love their Evos but they just seem a bit like putting a V8 in a VW Golf.

Amberale I understand folks love their Evos but they just seem a bit like putting a V8 in a VW Golf.

How so?

Imo the Vostok is too big for most UK kitchens it’s 590mmx450mm it’s a beast and imo a dropped ball as most UK counters are 600, but the shape leads it to stick out,

It would look immense on a centre island

Cuprajake Imo the Vostok is too big for most UK kitchens it’s 590mmx450mm it’s a beast and imo a dropped ball as most UK counters are 600, but the shape leads it to stick out,

Which is why the Evo was designed released first, it needed to fit in my kitchen. and although the Vostok looks great and new…the Evo is more practical, although a more expensive to produce case. I still expect it to be the better sized alternative for most UK and European Kitchens.

It’s why it has all the features of the Vostok, and for mine under machine lighting to compensate for the lack of a portafilter area light, and probably other things I can’t mention.

DavecUK I still expect it to be the better sized alternative for most UK and European Kitchens.

I’d be delighted if I could fit anything bigger than a Gaggia Classic in my kitchen worktops practically.I have an Elizabeth and that lives in the dining room. Back in the day I had a La Pavoni / Niche combo and that had to live inside a cupboard!

I tried to turn the kitchen into a coffee bar once but that caused a lot of disappointments with my better half…. Not a battle worth picking for two cups of coffee per day.

MediumRoastSteam I tried to turn the kitchen into a coffee bar once but that caused a lot of disappointments with my better half…. Not a battle worth picking for two cups of coffee per day.

You know the answer to that one.

MediumRoastSteam I tried to turn the kitchen into a coffee bar once but that caused a lot of disappointments with my better half…. Not a battle worth picking for two cups of coffee per day.

So, youre not that much in to coffee then? 🤭☕💪🏼 Just do it 😜

Adrianmsmith - maybe I’ll get those 6 numbers right tonight. Let’s see… 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣