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It seems like rather an odd petition. Politicians have not been doing what they said they would since the dawn of time. I’m not sure what it will achieve aside from making part of the population feel ‘heard’, which is as good as anything I suppose. Interested to follow along and see what happens.

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Fascinating how quickly it’s rising!

I’m curious as to what outcome people are hoping for though.

From the narrative I saw pre-election, the left seemed very keen to just ‘get the Tories out’ without actually thinking beyond that result. Presumably those people aren’t likely to suddenly vote blue. I guess the farming community probably make up a significant number of those on the petition.

I’m usually Tory but even I can appreciate that it’s likely to take Labour more than a few months to get settled in and I must admit they’ve at least made a few positive steps.

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People have short memories. Over 6 million signed the petition to revoke article 50 and remain in the EU. Over 4 million voted for a second EU referendum, so this isn’t unprecedented.

Starmer’s government is unpopular and, as in most every election, fewer people voted for the government than didn’t. That’s how modern democracies work! Not liking the result of an election is a poor reason to push for another almost immediately.

Given how increasingly easy it is to popularise these petitions online I wouldn’t be surprised if this one gets as many votes or even passes the Brexit referenda. But I expect it will be as successful as all the others!

A few observations around this phenomenon, around 2 million elderly won’t have the ability to sign it. It may also make them realise they do not have the clear mandate they thought and should respect the people they are there to serve.

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    I think the Brexit referendum was more black and white. You were either in one camp or the other. This is asking folks who may have or may have not voted for Labour to cast an opinion a few short months into their tenure. If you have a Manifesto, are voted into power on it then act upon it then fairs fair. If however you win an election then start to do things that are not in your manifesto and voted upon……..if Labour had stated they were going to withdraw for example the winter fuel allowance, or fiddle with farmers IHT then they might have not won

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      I just wanted to stress although the forum doesn’t mind a bit of politics, this thread is about a petition garnering signatures at a rate I have not seen before, it’s literally been running 4 or 5 days only. So I’m hoping there will be a bit of friendly banter and observations about it going forwards and what we might think the impact will be, if any.

      From my personal point of view, if it makes them stop, think, listen and start to govern for more the whole population and not the 5% that hold power/influence, then that would be a good thing. Perhaps they can truly become a “government of service”…one lives in hope.

      I also hope it makes the general political class of all parties take a good long hard look at themselves and their policies. Something isn’t right in the UK about politics and it’s been broken a long time now…hopefully the Petition is the first step on a long path to fixing it.

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      dfk41 I think the Brexit referendum was more black and white. You were either in one camp or the other. This is asking folks who may have or may have not voted for Labour to cast an opinion a few short months into their tenure. If you have a Manifesto, are voted into power on it then act upon it then fairs fair. If however you win an election then start to do things that are not in your manifesto and voted upon……..if Labour had stated they were going to withdraw for example the winter fuel allowance, or fiddle with farmers IHT then they might have not won

      The NHS is still waiting on the promised additional £350m p/w that we previously paid to the EU. ;-) Using that logic, if people realised that this wouldn’t happen, they may have voted differently. :-) But what’s done is done.

      Same applies to the General Election. I might argue that Labour didn’t win the election, rather the Tories lost it. The Conservative Party is in absolute disarray, jumping from leader to leader, even when in power - each with less merit to lead the party than the last, never mind lead the country. And each with a different manifesto that the public were never even given a chance to endorse or reject.

      Labour are also a sh!t show but they capitalised on the Tories disarray. They’d argue that tough decisions were needed to increase public revenue due to the mess left by the previous incumbents. The Tories wouldn’t have been immune to these pressures - they knew they were on the way out for most of the last term so short term wins were the order of the day.

      A party is elected to govern for a set term. They get to use that term to make changes that they hope will get them elected for a further term. If they don’t, they get voted out. The incumbents get to decide when they call an election and common sense says they do this when they have the most chance of winning. The petition won’t make this happen any sooner, more likely the opposite. It would be foolish to call an early election when unpopular. We’ll see very different budgets and policy announcements in the year preceding an election from Labour. It’s all a big charade. Same sh!t, different day!

          DavecUK A few observations around this phenomenon, around 2 million elderly won’t have the ability to sign it.

          Thanks for petition link, Dave! Although me and my wife are elderly, we have managed to sign the petition… :-)

          We are living in Germany, but a third of our triple citizenship allows us to engage in British politics. Let’s hope the mistake made in June, 23rd 2016 is reversible.

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              dfk41 surely you mean 1,269,501 mistakes!

              no David, you made a mistake, it’s 2,299,127 votes, at the time of posting. It was 2 million before lunchtime.

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                  Labour being the woke obsessed leftists that they are will run Britain into the ground just in time to prepare the way for the reform party to win the next election if Nigel farage can get his party into shape with enough good candidates to ride the wave that is coming. This will mirror what has happened in the US. Hopefully that will herald a new wave of returning to common sense and sanity in western continental Europe and australasia in time as well.