Hi all! Does anyone here have some insight on the Quick Mill Arnos? I was sold on a good deal on a Bianca but it didn’t work in the end while I was sold on the MaraX, I came across the Quick Mill Arnos and realized there may be other options to consider in that price range. Thoughts? Is it a clever integration of a PID on a HX or not as good as the MaraX? Thanks!!

@"Snooze"#p8947 Dare one ask which vendor you are considering for this purchase matey?

> @"Snooze"#p8947 Thoughts? Is it a clever integration of a PID on a HX or not as good as the MaraX? It's just using a PID instead of a pressurestat….makes no difference to brew temperature stability and if tunes as a PID usually results in a 20% reduction in potential maximum steaming power. If you read anything else, it's because it's either marketing spiel, or a lack of knowledge by the reviewer. From an espresso point of view, it really makes no difference at all, and it's doing nothing like the MaraX

@"dfk41"#p8949 I’m not at the point of considering any specific vendor but only saw info on that machine from Whole Latte Love.

@"DavecUK"#p8983 ok I probably misunderstood then. Sorry about that.

@"Snooze"#p8995 not a problem at all

Quick Mill Arnos

Snooze

DavecUK thanks Dave. So I guess regulating only the boiler is not advantages. I’ll reread your review of the MaraX since you explain that bit quite well. I wasn’t sure if the Arnos was copying the MaraX design.

In your review of the MaraX you mentioned that there is nothing comparable to the MaraX on the market at this price point. To your knowledge, is it still the case? Anything else one should consider before buying it?

Many thanks!!

DavecUK

Snooze In your review of the MaraX you mentioned that there is nothing comparable to the MaraX on the market at this price point. To your knowledge, is it still the case? Anything else one should consider before buying it?

It’s still the case (to the best of my knowledge) that there is no comparable HX on the market, that does what maraX does

BlackCatCoffee

I believe WLL and Quickmill worked together on the Arnos and it is not available outside the US market so if you are in the UK then I don’t think you’ll be able to get hold of one. I believe the most similar machine would be the Andreja PID.

I think Quickmill has some sort of relation ship with Ferrari although I don’t think they hold a lot of physical stocks.

All Quickmill’s machines are traditional HX implementations.

Snooze

DavecUK ok so the MaraX is THE HX to get for thermal stability. Otherwise the next improvement would be a dual boiler although I think you mentioned that even some DB don’t have that precision.

Thanks for your response.

PortafilterProcrastinator

DavecUK How similar is the Profitec Pro-400? Seems to be their equivalent, but not seen anything since Host.

DavecUK

Snooze although I think you mentioned that even some DB don’t have that precision.

All dual boilers I have published a review for, tested and produced recommended settings, all have even better precision/adjustability.

Snooze

DavecUK ok I probably misunderstood then. Sorry about that.

Snooze

DavecUK so something like the Lelit Elizabeth would be more precise then?

I’ll go reread both reviews!

DavecUK

Snooze not a problem at all

DavecUK

PortafilterProcrastinator Not heard much about it…but it’s might well be just skimming the lower edge of machines that interest me.

MediumRoastSteam

What’s the appeal of the Arnos or the Pro-400? Is it a simple HX with a PID? (there are many others). Doesn’t the Pro-500 do exactly the same thing?

PortafilterProcrastinator

MediumRoastSteam Pro-400 I understand it has three pre-set temps to select from, switchable pre-infusions, some kind of ‘steam’ mode, fast warm up and maybe another couple of features, but I haven’t seen anything since Host.

MediumRoastSteam

PortafilterProcrastinator Pro-400 I understand it has three pre-set temps to select from, switchable pre-infusions, some kind of ‘steam’ mode, fast warm up and maybe another couple of features, but I haven’t seen anything since Host.

I see - I completely missed that part! Is it the same for the Arnos?

So, if I understand this correctly, the Pro-400 is/will be a direct competitor of the MaraX?

DavecUK

MediumRoastSteam So, if I understand this correctly, the Pro-400 is/will be a direct competitor of the MaraX?

I will have to look at the specs again.