Just downloaded footage from my secret webcam in the kitchen of @"DavecUK"#1 only to discover that he's been holding out on us! Cmon Dave, spill the beans (not the coffee ones) on this geourgeous looking leva. [URL=https://i.imgur.com/Y7e0uuz.jpg][IMG]https://i.imgur.com/Y7e0uuz.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

For this machine it's one of the first made, and I am doing an Engineering review on it for Antonio (the creator) as a favour, so I can't really comment at this stage. But I can post photos….and say that the Paddle levers on this are very basic beta ones….so that area is still in the design melting pot.

needs to be 50mm shorter for a uk work top haha i believe this is a commercial focsed machine?

I love the look of these sorts of lever machines, but they really need to at least try to make them a bit more compact in design. They're either lacking in that area of expertise or they don't care… A more compact design would look like a much better centre piece in a kitchen (and take less space in a commercial setting), rather than protruding till the near edge. The size distracts from the elegance of it.

Certainly a looker. I'm sure we will all look forward to your thoughts when you are able to comment.

@"Cuprajake"#p10000 no it's for the home market

@"Cuprajake"#p10000 from the nurri website https://www.nurri.coffee/portfolio-item/nurri-leva-sa-machine/ L-TYPE LEVA S.A. is a professional machine. Yes. But it is designed for those who want to enjoy quality espresso at home, making it with the same passion and competence of a professional bartender.

@"tompoland"#p10004 I like how they stuck Patent Pending on everything 🤣 a bit unprofessional.

@"Sham"#p10001 I agree when it comes to similar sized Levers that require external plumbing or flojet type arrangement. But the Nurri is dual boiler and plumbing is optional. Still, I agree that it's a lot for a normal kitchen. I like the footprint on the Decent for example.

Powder coated version. Wow. [URL=https://i.imgur.com/7uFzqtw.jpg][IMG]https://i.imgur.com/7uFzqtw.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

@"tompoland"#p10007 In that case they should have either decreased tank sizes and utilised quicker water heating technology (I'm sure there's loads of options from other industry's) or started with a more wide design but I guess that would've cost too much R&D time. One way to think of it is that they won't lose customers if its small, but they will lose customers if its too big. It does look pretty nice though.

Nurri Leva S.A.

chlorox

simonko

I also don’t agree on the force it takes to pull the lever and the weight of the machine- it took considerably more force to pull rhe pompei lever and of course the pompei was considerably heavier. I tend to only steam milk after I finish the extraction of the shot so it’s not an issue for me to have to hold the paddle for a few seconds. However if u flip the steam wand joystick so that it sticks in the open position, can’t you steam the milk in the jug with one hand while pulling the paddle with the other?

simonko

chlorox Steaming during paddle operation is fine. It’s when steaming has to be stopped during paddle operation.

I like to incorporate the milk before crema dissipates/milk thickens, so always steam and extract simultaneiously.

Making some shots today and monitoring the lever force, it’s very light, borderline effortless. Maybe we developed lever muscles from the Izzo. Might try the Roman Rings again after failing miserably the first time.

chlorox

simonko

Effortless was rhe word on the tip of my tongue as well to describe how easy it seems to me to pull the nurri lever but as u said, if one is used to pulling levets for years, that is differrnt from someone who isn’t used to it. You can tell from the video that moritz isn’t used to pulling a lever yet from how pulling the lever still took obvious effort from him, bu that will come in time.

On the workflow, if u need to turn off steam while keeping the paddle pulled at the same time, may I suggest u just let go of the paddle and turn off the steam and then return to pulling open the paddle. Since u r merely venting the water in the grouphead by pulling the paddle, thatmomentary interruption should make no discernible difference.

simonko

chlorox Thank for the suggestion. I discovered something far more obvious - my hand span can pull the pressure relief and reach the steam toggle to flick it off. And here I was literally using my head. I recall someone mentioning it would make more sense to have the paddles swapped, but I’m now very glad the pressure relief is near the steam toggle.

Also the blocking of one steam hole is working wonders for the small 100 mL of milk I steam. It has allowed me to up the steam pressure/temperature without it aggressively introducing too much air into the milk, yet still keep a ton of thermal energy in the water to outsurvive refills/purges. It lengthens the steaming time so it typically finishes just after extraction so I don’t come across the simulataneous finish much anymore either. With Charlies high level latte art, I can see why he likes to steam simultaneously, as is also done in latte art champs.

Cuprajake

just do the milk after the shot its not that big of a deal 15s worth of time saved

chlorox

simonko

Well that may explain why I don’t bother with steaming simultaneously with extraction since my latte “art” is somewhat lower than the level of kindergarden kids’ scribbles LOL

simonko

Haha - I’m not Charlie’s level but slowly getting there and one thing I’ve noticed is what a fine line it is both for the extraction and the milk that experts can not only nail more often, but intuitively adjust for when it’s not perfect.

chlorox

simonko

Yes it looks so easy when they r doing it - but then again that is what we see whenever the truly skilled or those who are expert do something amateurs can also do much less adroitly be it playing a musical instrument or football or balancing ones own accounts….

But returning to steaming and extraction, I also like to focus on the shot itself and not be distracted by needingto do something else at the same time - because I am watching to see when is the best time to end the shot by watching the stream of coffee, rate of ascent of the handle, the manometer telling me what the pressure is, and the shot timer. I feel more involved in making the coffee when I do that and it adds to my enjoyment of the whole process when I am not in a hurry to make the coffee.

simonko

Looks like Lance might be reviewing the Nurri soon? A blue one

JonWoo187

simonko Uh, does anybody really care? The entire ‘social media influencer’ thing is just hilarious at best.

chlorox

simonko

That blue and olive wood combo looks really good actually…

simonko

JonWoo187 Sounds like you’re trying to influence on social media.

I agree, but there are those who can filter out the bad bits to usually get something out of it.

FadedFrontiers

JonWoo187 don’t like them fine, don’t pay any attention but no need to be rude about it. Lots will be interested to see a video on the machine, it doesn’t need to turn in to a debate all the time

simonko

chlorox

I quite like it too. Wasn’t fond of the Ferrari red one.

chlorox

simonko

Yeah that red one is really for a ferrari enthusiast ! Just like the stainless one with the Maradona etching on it- only for a diehard Diego fan!

IMHO bloggers are just like people - you get all sorts and there are better ones and there are worse ones; there are some who have a more amateuristic or rambling or annoying presentation while there are others who use very high production values. There are some who are more idiosyncratic while there are those who are very dry and matter of fact and all sorts in between those extremes. As the industry matures, imho they will get better and the really better ones who publish more useful content will separate themselves more clearly from the rest.

JonWoo187

FadedFrontiers Far from being rude, dude… Guess some in life can’t figure things out and need guidance on some level. EVERYTHING in life has always been and always be subjective and people really need to put that front and center.

chlorox

JonWoo187

With respect, just because people have subjective opinions doesn’t mean that others’ impressions of some product or service or media aren’t useful as a guide to others when they do not have the chance to try out that product or service or media for themselves before buying it. Otherwise the only way to obtain any idea of it other than reading the product specs or the manufacturers info on it is to spend your money to buy it - which is too late as u would have already bought it.

dfk41

When someone reviews something, they receive some kit then live with it for a reasonable amount of time so that they can learn the ups and down of using it. The speed with which many influencers (I guess there is a clue in their name) come out with promotional videos is often alarming

chlorox

dfk41

Judging ftom his first review post on it, charlie moritz had and used his nurri leva for something like 3 months I believe before he reviewed it. And that nurri was his own personal unit and not a loaner for review purposes. While Tom had his for at least 4 months before finally reviewing it. So I reckon that’s quite long enough to get a fair idea of the machine.

As for hedrick he should have had his test unit for at least a few weeks judging from h videos where the machine is sitting in the background.

tompoland

dfk41 agree 100% David.

I’m not knocking the influencers since I a get a lot of value from some but you’re on the money I reckon.

It’s the difference between a first date versus living together.

We’re looking to have that kit “move in” with is and live with it.

As such, giving us a thumbs up on a piece of kit is akin to them having one date with a girl/guy and then recommending that we marry them!

dfk41

chlorox I was not actually referring to either of the folks you mention but just in general. As for Hedrick, I would not watch a single thing he produces.

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