Just downloaded footage from my secret webcam in the kitchen of @"DavecUK"#1 only to discover that he's been holding out on us! Cmon Dave, spill the beans (not the coffee ones) on this geourgeous looking leva. [URL=https://i.imgur.com/Y7e0uuz.jpg][IMG]https://i.imgur.com/Y7e0uuz.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

For this machine it's one of the first made, and I am doing an Engineering review on it for Antonio (the creator) as a favour, so I can't really comment at this stage. But I can post photos….and say that the Paddle levers on this are very basic beta ones….so that area is still in the design melting pot.

needs to be 50mm shorter for a uk work top haha i believe this is a commercial focsed machine?

I love the look of these sorts of lever machines, but they really need to at least try to make them a bit more compact in design. They're either lacking in that area of expertise or they don't care… A more compact design would look like a much better centre piece in a kitchen (and take less space in a commercial setting), rather than protruding till the near edge. The size distracts from the elegance of it.

Certainly a looker. I'm sure we will all look forward to your thoughts when you are able to comment.

@"Cuprajake"#p10000 no it's for the home market

@"Cuprajake"#p10000 from the nurri website https://www.nurri.coffee/portfolio-item/nurri-leva-sa-machine/ L-TYPE LEVA S.A. is a professional machine. Yes. But it is designed for those who want to enjoy quality espresso at home, making it with the same passion and competence of a professional bartender.

@"tompoland"#p10004 I like how they stuck Patent Pending on everything 🤣 a bit unprofessional.

@"Sham"#p10001 I agree when it comes to similar sized Levers that require external plumbing or flojet type arrangement. But the Nurri is dual boiler and plumbing is optional. Still, I agree that it's a lot for a normal kitchen. I like the footprint on the Decent for example.

Powder coated version. Wow. [URL=https://i.imgur.com/7uFzqtw.jpg][IMG]https://i.imgur.com/7uFzqtw.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

@"tompoland"#p10007 In that case they should have either decreased tank sizes and utilised quicker water heating technology (I'm sure there's loads of options from other industry's) or started with a more wide design but I guess that would've cost too much R&D time. One way to think of it is that they won't lose customers if its small, but they will lose customers if its too big. It does look pretty nice though.

Nurri Leva S.A.

simonko

Looks like Lance might be reviewing the Nurri soon? A blue one

JonWoo187

simonko Uh, does anybody really care? The entire ‘social media influencer’ thing is just hilarious at best.

chlorox

simonko

That blue and olive wood combo looks really good actually…

simonko

JonWoo187 Sounds like you’re trying to influence on social media.

I agree, but there are those who can filter out the bad bits to usually get something out of it.

FadedFrontiers

JonWoo187 don’t like them fine, don’t pay any attention but no need to be rude about it. Lots will be interested to see a video on the machine, it doesn’t need to turn in to a debate all the time

simonko

chlorox

I quite like it too. Wasn’t fond of the Ferrari red one.

chlorox

simonko

Yeah that red one is really for a ferrari enthusiast ! Just like the stainless one with the Maradona etching on it- only for a diehard Diego fan!

IMHO bloggers are just like people - you get all sorts and there are better ones and there are worse ones; there are some who have a more amateuristic or rambling or annoying presentation while there are others who use very high production values. There are some who are more idiosyncratic while there are those who are very dry and matter of fact and all sorts in between those extremes. As the industry matures, imho they will get better and the really better ones who publish more useful content will separate themselves more clearly from the rest.

JonWoo187

FadedFrontiers Far from being rude, dude… Guess some in life can’t figure things out and need guidance on some level. EVERYTHING in life has always been and always be subjective and people really need to put that front and center.

chlorox

JonWoo187

With respect, just because people have subjective opinions doesn’t mean that others’ impressions of some product or service or media aren’t useful as a guide to others when they do not have the chance to try out that product or service or media for themselves before buying it. Otherwise the only way to obtain any idea of it other than reading the product specs or the manufacturers info on it is to spend your money to buy it - which is too late as u would have already bought it.

dfk41

When someone reviews something, they receive some kit then live with it for a reasonable amount of time so that they can learn the ups and down of using it. The speed with which many influencers (I guess there is a clue in their name) come out with promotional videos is often alarming

chlorox

dfk41

Judging ftom his first review post on it, charlie moritz had and used his nurri leva for something like 3 months I believe before he reviewed it. And that nurri was his own personal unit and not a loaner for review purposes. While Tom had his for at least 4 months before finally reviewing it. So I reckon that’s quite long enough to get a fair idea of the machine.

As for hedrick he should have had his test unit for at least a few weeks judging from h videos where the machine is sitting in the background.

tompoland

dfk41 agree 100% David.

I’m not knocking the influencers since I a get a lot of value from some but you’re on the money I reckon.

It’s the difference between a first date versus living together.

We’re looking to have that kit “move in” with is and live with it.

As such, giving us a thumbs up on a piece of kit is akin to them having one date with a girl/guy and then recommending that we marry them!

dfk41

chlorox I was not actually referring to either of the folks you mention but just in general. As for Hedrick, I would not watch a single thing he produces.

chlorox

dfk41

I would agree that it definitely would make the review a lot less persuasive if the blogger just had the gear for a few days and mad e a video on it for example.

simonko

dfk41

You have to be above it. Those who get influenced find out the hard way a machine is not really to their liking. Serves them right for taking shortcuts.

On the other hand, I got a brief look of what a Nurri in blue looks like that I haven’t seen elsewhere. I’ve seen the new dial in other people’s content, what different colours and wood panels look like - it’s part of the joy of the hobby.

Wouldn’t have phased me one bit if Dave didn’t want to promote such people and removed the video.

Cuprajake

its just the new version of product placement

Cuprajake

to add, its pretty much there job to sell the product and give an insight, what i dont like is when info is wrong, theres no excuse for that, as thats not opinion based…

chlorox

Cuprajake

Actually my take is that the influencer is out to sell his own brand rather than the product. He gets income from having a following who trust what he says. So for him to just be a shill for the manufacturer totally defeats what he is trying to achieve as sooner or later people will catch on. So I reckon that it’s more complex than that and cannot be generalised as a whole …

DavecUK

chlorox I don’t agree, the influencer serves himself but has to shill for manufacturers as well, or they have to buy their own kit. Many influencers have fingers in pies they don’t disclose. There is so much hidden interest. One thing for sure, they only do it for the money, hence buyer beware.

chlorox

DavecUK

A couple of the more established bloggers do buy their gear to review so that would tend to promote a greater degree of independence.

Cuprajake

alot have patreon to support the habit.

chlorox

Cuprajake

Back in the day when hoffman did a lot of product reviews that’s what he did . .. I don’t tune in as much nowadays as his content seems more targeted at the more general populace…

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