Decided to start a little thread, documenting my journey and the vertical learning curve i seam to have been on. Like most, i got furloughed when covid kicked off and got bored so decided to get more into coffee. One thing after another with lots of reading on various forums, YouTube tutorials and what not,i bought a gaggia classic. [upl-image-preview url=//i.imgur.com/ATQnfMS.jpeg] Along with that i decided to get a 1zpresso for my grinding as i have a wilfa svart for all my pour overs etc. Well after wasting a good 500g of beans on the gaggia, i decided it wasn't for me, and promptly sold it. Decided on the sage duo temp pro which i was initially going to buy in the first place,quick look and £249 later john lewis delivered my shiney new machine [upl-image-preview url=//i.imgur.com/TWUem7I.jpeg] Now as much as i loved the 1zpresso, my shoulder didin't so, that got sold in favour of an eureka mignon from [@Black Cat Coffee](https://www.coffeeforums.co.uk/members/16888/) Next up the upgraditus got a hold of me as i wanted a fancy looking machine, and i got a bit of a dark horse off ebay A la macatec elba one, e61 grouphead. [upl-image-preview url=//i.imgur.com/Pg6PmPa.jpeg] I had long lusted over a dual boiler, mainly the lelit Elizabeth, with its pre infusion, quick heat up times it really is a fantastic machine, but id also noted the acs minima, another machine along the more traditional looks, and the looks along with the bigger boilers swayed it for me. [upl-image-preview url=//i.imgur.com/uxgb5uM.jpeg] So in the never ending revolving door of grinders with me, after having a eureak zenith 65, a niche and another mignon i saw a lightly used 2019 mazzer major on ebay, i added a Daniel wong doserless kit at the time, since gone to a funnel, even added ssp redspeed burrs [upl-image-preview url=//i.imgur.com/4P2ynGd.jpeg] I was going to used bottled water, either ashbeck or longhill, but then i spoke to a few in the know and did a bit of digging and settled on using ro water, remineralised with potassium bicarbonate, this will never scale the machine and makes for a tastey espresso to. After only having the minima for a short while a lever machine caught my eye, a 2014 londinium l1 - that was it i was in love, i sold the minima to fund the l1 and that was me set, the londinium moved home with me. [upl-image-preview url=//i.imgur.com/NF46adN.jpeg] i had a stunning set of handles turned by nick, they really sent the machine to another level, and i was happy in my own little coffee world, id been toying with med/lighter stuff but always found then too bright, to acidic to my taste, then one day the pressure relief valve blew on the l1, scared me to death, and that set about a refurb of the machine, but id lost all confidence, and decided now we had a bit of equity, that i would buy my first propper new machine, i lusted over the top spec londiniums but at £3500 ish they were just too much. the next machine came from bella barista, a crem one profiler, very capable machine, but arrived faulty, so had to go back, i have an amazing wife who said just get the machine you want, so i did, an lr24 stunner it was too, but sadly again came with issues and i returned the machine, :( after a little search i settled upon the lelit bianca- id always fancied a vesuvius profilong machine, but they too were expensive, so the lelit was the machine of choice, (2months later the ves dropped in price!!) [upl-image-preview url=//i.imgur.com/xOGfGUS.jpeg] and there a sat, happy as a pig in mud, the lelit a fabulos machine, quiet rotary pump, flow control, great heat stability, tbh it was almost boring as it just did its job, i still longed for another lever machine, once there in your blood they stick, they just look amazing. and what should pop up but an acs leva…a machine id been quite skeptical about, any lever seems to be quite polarising, just seems to be that way. id heard rumors read stuff saying how the machine was a miss match of parts, no good etc. but they still looked amazing, id followed the machine for a while and at the price it came up, prompted by a life even i thought stuff it! we're here once, get it! and that leads me to now. [upl-image-preview url=//i.imgur.com/ErMqxfw.jpeg] its been an up and down journey, ive jumped on fads bought stuff that i totally didnt need, learnt less is definately more, when it comes to coffee, ive noticed that each step ive taken up the ladder, ive inproved my coffee, each machine has been better than the last, starting would i imagined id of spent so much for a coffee - hell no, am i glad i did - yes jake

@"Cuprajake"#p12617 That’s quite a quite a journey Jake! It’s amazing how much you persevered. A classic example for some one to learn and understand what it takes to keep the passion for coffee alive. The best part is your wife firmly supporting so that you get what you desire. Enjoy making coffee with Evo. She offers plenty of possibilities to keep you busy. Hope she stays with you for ever!

Unlike Jake, we mostly stayed pour overs - mainly the Indian filter for a good part of our life with occasional £100-£150 machines. When the last machine died on us in late 2020, we kept moving the goal post from Gaggia to Minima to Evo. The 150 quids to £2500 is indeed a massive upgrade. Sure, she is our end game machine.

Jake’s corner was great reading during the pandemic

Fabulous post @"Cuprajake"#144 most interesting. It's terrific to have that pictorial guide to your journey. Thanks for taking the time to share.

@"Cuprajake"#p12617 Great post, shows the journey for many of us. Some go there in one big jump, others take the longer road, which is probably more fun..

id of saved a small fortune going big first, but i dont think id of learnt or appreciated the subtle changes. ive had some fabulous products half not pictured haha

So with a great machine comes great responsibility 🤣 i mean gadgets and we all love new stuff True to form ive ordered a funnel, doesn't fit, ive ordered a ims basket, and a normcore 58.5mm push tamper, with a plan to machine it down to fit the basket, for a mrs safe tamp🤣 Few internal pic [upl-image-preview url=//i.imgur.com/8Yb02jB.jpeg] Then an arty one [upl-image-preview url=//i.imgur.com/E2J62vo.jpeg]

Great journey to finally end up where you are today. Best way to learn what you do a don’t like regarding machines and your coffee.

Really enjoyed reading about the journey! That’s quite a few machines! Some very nice looking machines too! I love the turned handles on the first lever machine.

nick didnt, they were a very hard thing to make, had to design and make special mandrels due to the way the londinium handles are made,

My Coffee Journey

Ando

My lever is days away, and I’m terrified to see the size of it! Think the decent looks fantastic in a kitchen environment.

Cuprajake

First shot with the mp burrs

It’s zero 3 marks more than the stock burrs
This shot was 5 on the duo, too fine

Coffee
https://wogancoffee.com/products/guatemala-blue-ayarza-natural?_pos=1&_psq=gua&_ss=e&_v=1.0

https://visualizer.coffee/shots/0ad1b0c6-0286-4937-acce-6b0df0e22cd9

james65477564

Cuprajake Where did you source the mp burrs from? They seem difficult to find in the uk.

Cuprajake

ssp direct

james65477564

Cuprajake Thanks, do you mean http://www.sspgrind.com

It doesnt look like they have a webshop though?

Cuprajake

you need to send an email, thats what i did

Cuprajake

Still not overly sold on the mp burrs

Will try them with a few more beans but still favouring the stock mazzer

Adrianmsmith

Cuprajake

That comment just saved me a few quid 😎☕

Mine is on a pedestal to make it feel superior!!

Igm45

Adrianmsmith I see you got the prime Adrian, how are you finding it?

Adrianmsmith

@Igm45

I am a fan of the prime.

And the duo for that matter.

I prefer the prime for my latte and The Duo for americano currently the Duo is full time decaf Americano!!

Side by side of if both grinding 21g rave 50 dialled in at around 28 second shot.

Mouth feel is very slightly more / better for me than the duo, but the niche zero had a little too much for me as a comparison.

Duo vs prime

Cuprajake

Allongé

MediumRoastSteam

Cuprajake - is the grind size kept the same? For instance, if I wanted an espresso and an Allongé - do I need to change the grind setting?

Grahamsphillips

Hi @Cuprajake how did the allonge taste? I’ve tried to do it several time on my Vesuvius - it should be possible @DavecUK?? but its always tasted revolting. Any suggestions?? Or is it because I’ve not tried it with the right type of bean??

MediumRoastSteam

Grahamsphillips - I think in Italian it’s called “acqua sporca”. 🤪

Cuprajake

Yeah you go coarser than a traditional 2:1 these are quite light beans however

@Grahamsphillips suppose you should be able to really, depends what you drink

Grahamsphillips

What was your coffee weight to in the cup weight ratio? @Cuprajake

Cuprajake

These are the beans

The allongé was on 5.5 on the duo 18g in a Pullman 876 17-19g basket with bottom paper and top screen

This vid is the lrv3 profile

This is the same bean and dose but in the stock decent 18g basket, using a top screen only.

Setting off 4 on the duo

LMSC

Cuprajake What’s your ratio - 1:5, 1:6, …?

Cuprajake

The allongé was ment to be 5:1 but I forgot to change is so it came out at 7:1😂

The second shot is 18g:43g

MediumRoastSteam

Cuprajake what’s the profile like? Declining flow and pressure?

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