The Eureka Single Dose is now out in the wild. Is anyone thinking of buying one?

We know @"DavecUK"#1 had this for a while and did a review for them. I’m not sure , if he is allowed to post his comments.

@"LMSC"#p933 I had a prototype with smaller burrs, I made some recommendations. What size burrs does the production version have and how much does it cost?

@"DavecUK"#p943 Thx Dave! 65 mm diamond costing £499 https://static.bellabarista.co.uk/pdf/Eureka-Mignon-Single-Dose-Niche-Zero-DF-64.pdf

That document above is crazy marketing nonsense. I vote we remove from here as it's entirely bias and misleading. @"LMSC"#p944 ^^^.

@"MediumRoastSteam"#p946 I am not a marketing agent! 😂 That’s what I find on their site. Some one will have to prove one way or other. I am indifferent between keeping that link or removing it. Dave and mods may decide.

When you read that doc (not sure if you have) you will see what I'm talking about. The claims they (Eureka) are making are baseless and without any substance what so ever. (rant over) 🤣

@"MediumRoastSteam"#p952 hi, I saw that document before, yes it is purely marketing, composed by one ‘eureka’ company it looks like! When I was toying with the idea of purchasing the niche zero I stumbled across lots of stuff online and that was one of them, I didn’t pay much attention after first glance tbh. I don’t believe it would be helpful to someone considering the comparisons either if they were looking for meaningful info

@"MediumRoastSteam"#p952 I did, tbh. We always find most of the manufactures’ claims are excessive, don’t we? I am looking forward to a review and first impressions, though.

Mine is being delivered later today. I’ll give my thoughts. I had a Niche in the past but didn’t get on with the flavours in comparison to my Atom 75.

@"cengland117"#p963 - Oh, exciting! Let us know how it compares to the Niche, not only in terms of flavorous but also usability. Looking forward to reading it!

Eureka Single dose, Niche, Solo

gotters

They are really great insights @DavecUK, you can tell using it that it’s been refined and designed to within an inch of its life, good to know that goes for the insides too. I’d seen another US based teardown months back on YouTube and he seemed a bit of a ‘good old boy’ who was berating it for having plastic gears. US engineering can be a bit rudimentary and unless it’s metal they think its ****.

When you say secrets do you mean design choices, materials or actual things in the unit he didn’t spot in the tear down ?

DavecUK

gotters When you say secrets do you mean design choices, materials or actual things in the unit he didn’t spot in the tear down ?

Yes, all 3, for the last one not necessarily didn’t spot, but didn’t understand the significance of..

The comments about metal gears good, plastic gears bad is a stupid one…it’s generally now the other way round for things like a grinder.

In the right applications, metal gears are fine…in a Grinder that’s not always the “right” application for metal. Gears in a spur gearbox (especially metal ones) have lubrication challenges…with a planetary the lubrication stays in the gears easier.

https://www.precisionmicrodrives.com/spur-versus-planetary-gear-types

http://www.zonpoo.com/planetary-gearboxes-advantages/

One of the concerns I would have about the Lagom is the spur gear system and keeping the lubrication in the gears (which I believe are metal)….So much, so I would advise anyone owning one these grinders to check the gearbox every 6 months by removing the cover, and ensuring the grease is properly distributed. Especially if they get more noisy! If I had one, I would also be thinking about changing the grease for new grease every 1-3 years depending on use.

CafeNoir

gotters Lol, let’s just say a lot of yanks have a fairly, err, elementary view on a lot of things, lol

dndrich

The Niche is a home run for the home barista. Not cheap, but much cheaper than other grinders with similar performance. It is a joy to use. I am thrilled to have it, and I hope it will be the last grinder I ever buy. If Niche stays in business over the years, any part that fails looks so easy to replace. So nice.

CafeNoir

gotters Thank you for sharing this, the guy has gone to some lengths and explained his point of view in layman’s terms.

So refreshing that it’s not just some entitled, opinionated twonk throwing monkey poo because he’s taken a particular stance.

As mentioned by DaveC, I’m certain that there’s a lot more to the Niche than covered in the video, but it’s a fairly balanced approach for all of that. Not that I’m even remotely biased,of course………lol

DavecUK

Cuprajake This is an interesting video from a HB user who states that their grinder has no burr misalignment as Roswell I believe might have been stating. Forget the bolt and the central washers…watch the burr edge of the moving inner in relation to the outer.

What do you think, recommend watching on YouTube full screen?

CafeNoir

DavecUK Oh dear lord, powerful case of confirmation bias happening here, lol lol……as the opticians ads say here, “should’ve gone to SpecSavers…”

Cuprajake

Hard to tell if its an optical illusion or the burr looks to move, did i read they said the beans centrlise the burr too?

I know the old hg 1 adjustment was a rubber mallet . Hardly finnese.

PortafilterProcrastinator

gotters I’ve just watched this after @dfk41 posted his Moka Pot video.

His style takes some getting used to, but the information content is great. Certainly one of the best Niche videos I’ve seen.

I was interested to see the use of PTFE tape on the main thread. I wonder if this is a worthwhile step to take? Does @DavecUK have any thoughts?

The only bit I didn’t agree with was the fines for v60, mind has never looked like that, but then I probably grind a lot coarser than he was. I am going to check out his v60 video at some point though.

DavecUK

PortafilterProcrastinator I was interested to see the use of PTFE tape on the main thread. I wonder if this is a worthwhile step to take? Does @DavecUK have any thoughts?

I don’t know, doing it might make the thread feel “tighter”, perhaps give less space for coffee to get in there. The only thing is PTFE thread has to be wrapped the right way and there is no right way on an adjuster that is twisted both ways. I don’t think it will do any harm…just don’t use too much.

In truth, it’s super difficult for coffee to get in there and it’s most likely to happen when cleaning. It might be better to wipe the threads out, perhaps following up with a toothbrush gently around them in one direction and lift when you get to the starting point (like cleaning a record)…a quick wipe with a kitchen towel and then a “smear” of food safe lube..again, don’t use too much…less is more. or a PTFE enhanced food safe dry lube if you have one.

MediumRoastSteam

PortafilterProcrastinator I was interested to see the use of PTFE tape on the main thread. I wonder if this is a worthwhile step to take

Feels like that’s nonsense to me. If I was having issues I would try it myself, but as is, I don’t see the point. If you are having issues, doesn’t cost much to give it a go.

CafeNoir

DavecUK my thought on the PFTE was, why not just clean the threads properly??? Or is that my OCD talking?

PortafilterProcrastinator

MediumRoastSteam I tend to agree, but then if it is a potential preventative measure there wouldn’t be a problem to solve.

The adjustment has always seemed fine to me, certainly not loose, but then who knows what might happen over time.

MediumRoastSteam

PortafilterProcrastinator - I had mine for over 3 years - granted I only drink espresso and clean every 3 months, so I don’t move the adjustment that much apart from minor tweaks around that range when changing beans, which it’s usually even week or so. It has never moved by itself.

Cuprajake

you would have to be an aggressive twister to trash the threads? no?

Frothbewithyou

Cuprajake I read that as if you were meaning the twister game
Giphy - twister GIF

Waitforme

I remember once asking the storeman at wok if he had any Poly Tetra Fleuro Ethylene tape , he replied that he didn’t , so I asked for a roll of PTFE tape which he duly gave me.

He was none the wiser.

DavecUK

Waitforme That was the time to ask for some left handed screwdrivers….

Rob666

DavecUK And a box of sprocket holes…

Pompeyexile

DavecUK That was the time to ask for some left handed screwdrivers….

Oooh, a left handed screwdriver. I’m very very left handed, so yes please 😁. Mind you, when I broke my left elbow 4 years ago and had my arm from my knuckles up to my shoulder set in plaster at 45 degrees for 7 weeks, it wouldn’t have been much use. I couldn’t do the simplest of tasks and my other half had to do virtually everything for me, cut up my dinner, help me dress etc…but she drew the line at one thing and said if I couldn’t manage it, she would just take me into the garden turn me round and hose me down… that’s love for you.

DavecUK

Rob666 Which I hang on my sky hooks

CafeNoir

DavecUK Off the long weight…

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