ACS Vesuvius Evo Leva

Blackbirdman

Replacing the flush lever should be done when the machine is cool, ask me how I know ;).

I quite enjoy reading that book. Not that it told me a lot of new things, but still.

The finish on this drip tray is better I think. It sits a bit too snug but I think I can fix that.

Adrianmsmith

Blackbirdman

That machine really is cool 😎

But hope it didn’t hurt too much 🥰

ManicAsif

Blackbirdman

I got my flush lever in the post the other day, haven’t got around to fitting it yet.

letting the machine cool down is noted :)

which method did you use? I glanced at the instructions, and seem there are two methods suggested

Blackbirdman

ManicAsif I used the 1st method. It is really easy but do look for the right nut to be removed. Mine was on the left side and since the pin can only be removed via that side there is no need to remove both. (I removed the right one only to come to the conclusion that was not the correct side ;) )

Adrianmsmith

Blackbirdman

@ManicAsif

just a bit of hopefully useful info for you, :-) you don’t need it to fit the lever but in case you think there’s any risk…..

There’s no risk at all removing the back domed nuts and or the studs to get access,

The 4 domed nuts can all be removed. the whole lever / piston unit will just sit there. only saying this in case you were thinking its under spring pressure. if required the whole unit can be lifted out (in a few months when you feel the urge to look and add some moly 111 to the seals!!)

i added copper washers purely for cosmetic effect. in the early days i think the guys were using PTFE washers for the same. I considered titanium, then saw current prices!!

ManicAsif

Blackbirdman @Adrianmsmith

Thanks guys, just replaced - very straightforward :)

That said, I am quite dissappointed with the new lever. There is alot of sideways movement (i.e wobbly) though it functions fine - it looks quite industrial when compared with the stock one. (which was/is nicely machined)

I don’t understand why ACS couldn’t just engineer a rod that fits in the already existing hole of the stock lever - Ok, you lose some of the adjustment offered by the new one - but, this wobblyness is going to do my head in :)

I might just look to find some kind of 3mm diameter steel rod and refit the stock one

…unless of course, I have done something wrong and others aren’t getting the sideways movement

Blackbirdman

Adrianmsmith currently I don’t have washers in place. Is there any need for them? I also didn’t reapply glue to the studs which were removed. I was wondering if that is necessary?

Could you further explain the molykote remark? I have read about it a while ago but can’t fully remember….

Adrianmsmith

Blackbirdman

you do not have washers!! as i said :

Adrianmsmith i added copper washers purely for cosmetic effect.

you may think it looks shit!!!

Blackbirdman also didn’t reapply glue to the studs which were removed. I was wondering if that is necessary?

my opinion "as its not under pressure it is not necessary. purely belt and braces.

Blackbirdman Could you further explain the molykote remark? I have read about it a while ago but can’t fully remember….

sorry for mentioning moly!!

not absolutely necessary as the seals are excellent but some prefer to add a little lube periodically. period subjective as well.

you can either remove the shower screen and pull the lever (machine turned off) and add a smear of grease to the cylinder wall and the top piston just under the lever or

remove the whole unit just because you are interested what is inside (!) and grease the seals and inspect them directly.

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in all cases ensure you are using the Food Safe silicone grease such as Molykote 111. this is the thick stuff, not the runny stuff to use technical terms!!

Blackbirdman

Adrianmsmith I will probably open it up one day since I am definitely interested how it looks inside. So thanks for the advice anyway!

Adrianmsmith

Blackbirdman

just to wet your appetite 🙃

Blackbirdman

Adrianmsmith Heavy breathing

DavecUK

ManicAsif Did you have a flush lever before?

Do you have a photo close up of the spindle area?

Is the wobble from the spindle in the group holes, or the holes in the lever.

Adrianmsmith

ManicAsif

Could you post photos and video otherwise we have no clue what you have or could have done. 😎😜

ManicAsif

Sorry, out and about with the grandkids at the moment. Will take a few pics when I get back home later tonight

but to answer a couple of questions

A) I had the stock flush lever, as per blackbirdman’s before and after pics above

B) the movement is where the flush lever is connected to the group head. Just seems the holes in the lever are ever so slightly too big, so the spindle that holds the lever in place with the circlip is loose (side to side)

It’s honestly not a big deal, but given how solidly built the rest of the machine is, it’s a shame to have a rattle in the flush lever

Blackbirdman

ManicAsif There isn’t any movement at all with my lever. Made a video:

I do have to agree that the stock one looks more sleek and fitting. This one is not as pleasing to the eye but the flush handles also aren’t helping. Still really happy with it since I got tired of touching a scorching lever ;)

ManicAsif

I have way more play than that

ManicAsif

Guys & Gals

Any thoughts on this?

Its certainly not a major issue, more of a minor quibble.

Given, Blackblackbird doesn’t seem to have the same level of movement, either I have fitted it incorrectly (though I don’t see how that would even be possible, as its such a simple retrofit) - or, my lever just has slightly bigger holes for the spindle at the base?

I don’t want to hassle ACS for such a minor thing, it I know it will irrate me over time :) - perhaps I can rig a simple fix

LMSC

ManicAsif The old small lever also wobbles a bit. It never bothered me, although I thought it is designed to give flexibility to the small lever as it rests against the lever handles swing arm.

You may consider adding silicone washers on either side, one on top of the pin and see if they help. 😊

LMSC

ManicAsif

Edit:

I won’t know if it is possible to add washers though!

Blackbirdman

ManicAsif hi ManicAsif, I checked mine again and was wondering if the lever was simply bent “a bit more”. See a picture below. The tolerances are very tight so there is simply only little room for the lever to move sideways. Perhaps yours has been bent a bit more giving it a bit too much room to move. If you want I could measure the width with a vernier calliper and you could compare…

DavecUK

You could try a piece or 2 of heat shrink

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