for the price difference, id pay more just for dealer back up

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Just in from DF headquarters is this response to my question as to whether the DF83 will start shipping with the DLC coated burrs (which they now do in all new Australian models that come in to the country via retailers.

_Hello Tom,

We hope you find the burrs to be as good as SSP too! Our manufacturer of burrs and our team tested and based on their results we say it is on par. We leave it to our resellers who are the professionals in this field too to leave their remarks.

Every grinder will have their own different set of burrs.

DLC can be produced but at an extra cost for DF83, 100USD for 83MM burrs. We found most resellers do not want to raise the cost even further, hence we offer the standard burrs only._

FYI the models hitting the distributors will be the version 2 with updated chute etc

Bella barista will be carrying the v2 from their preorder.

    MattH Matt do you know if v2 includes the Italmill or DLC burrs?

        tompoland No - let me ask.. they did mention that the metal dosing cup were extras some distributors were adding on and it was not there from the factory.

          tompoland so they think they are the italamil burrs… and they said theY would also be stocking ssp burrs if people wanted to then upgrade

            Ideally, they could offer DLC as an option like the SSP burrs. Some users may prefer to replace the stock itamil with Mazzer burrs. I believe the Torr toys offers the 83 mm DLC burrs costing €180. This is for Mazzer; I think the DF83 would take this.

            And that’s one of the beauties about both the DF64 and the DF83, there are quite a few burr options for each machine. Add to that how easy it is to swap the burrs out on each grinder and we now have a much more affordable way of satisfying the upgraditus itch - by way of a new burr set rather than a whole new grinder.

            I’ve been following this thread since the OP @LMSC started it almost 6 months ago. Thanks LMSC, it’s been inspirational.

            I’m looking forward to having the Australian variant in the grinder lab and putting it through it’s paces alongside the DF64.

            a month later

            Cleaned the grinder again today as it’s been little over a month and got much better result - 1.7g. Visibly less around the burrs. There was a caked chunk of grounds in the bend of the chute which probably equals to near a half of the total grinds.


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              prezes much better result - 1.7g

              Tx for the update. When you say “a much better result”, what do you think made it better? e.g. more use of the bellows.

                  tompoland I think it’s mainly the time and amount of coffee put through it. Last time I left it for 13 weeks with about 3kg of coffee through it.
                  Whether there’s more to it I can’t say !

                  I will do it again in around a month to see if it’s similar.

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                    a month later

                    5 weeks on and same result today so taking into considering the grinds that are impossible to be swept onto the container it seems to be around 2g.

                    Took a plunge and ordered Mythos style metal declumper so replaced at the same time.





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                    4 days later

                    An interesting development. Filter burrs for the DF83.

                      DavecUK no specs as such yet. They are from DF so likely the same burr manufacturers who make like the DLC espresso burrs in the Aus/NZ version of DF83 and the DF64V.

                        3 months later

                        DF83 arrived from BB today.

                        It’s a beast of a grinder in both size and weight. Included 2kg of beans will go through it this weekend although others have said seasoning of the stock burrs isnt really necessary?

                          skylark I didn’t bother with seasoning my DF83 when I got it last December. I was able to get great results pretty quickly, well before I had gone through 2kg of beans.

                          There are a lot of reports of people going through ~2kg of beans to season the DF83, and then having problems with clogging. I think it’s because the DF83 isn’t designed to grind that quantity of beans at once.

                          If you’re going to do the seasoning thing, I would do that in small batches, and get aggressive with using the bellows so that nothing gets hung up inside the grinder. I think an even better idea would be to just start using it, and if you can’t get the results you’re looking for after, say, 25 shots, then consider seasoning.

                          The same holds for modifying the DF83. There are a lot of folks out there who have a story like, “I tried one cup of espresso and then took the DF83 apart and cut up the declumper.” I’m not saying that you shouldn’t modify the DF83. I’m just saying that it’s a good idea to use it for a while before deciding that you need to do surgery on it.

                          Full disclosure: my DF83 is the original version, and I haven’t found the need to modify it. I use it twice daily for the past 9 months, so that’s over 500 cups of espresso at this point.

                          Good luck with the DF83! I think you’ll like it a lot.

                              wilburpan

                              Thanks. Good advice. This is the V2 version which has the ‘plasma generator/de-ioniser’ and modded declumper apparently so any problems should be behind it. I bought this from BB and i see that a new shipment has landed, they now have the black in stock at a whopping £100 premium over the white that i purchased (and wife ok’d, black was a non-starter!). I’ll play with it over the weekend but its already in place ….