I pre-ordered the 63mm conical variant of these from https://gorillagear.coffee/products/gorilla-gear-roblack-burrs-71mm-conical?_pos=1&_sid=de7841d97&_ss=r&variant=40171553259608 which are made to fit the Niche Zero and other grinders that use the Mazzer Kony burrs that the Niche uses. Made by John Gordon in New Zealand and now supplying the likes of high end grinder manufacturer Titus. [URL=https://i.imgur.com/Yzh1dWi.jpg][IMG]https://i.imgur.com/Yzh1dWi.jpg[/IMG][/URL] The burrs arrived late last week and I've just had my first three pours after putting a kilo of beans through for seasoning followed by a couple of sinkers while I sorted the grind size out. I'm impressed. From a Kenya AA bean medium/dark I detected more origin flavors than with the original burrs. The difference is more distinct than I dared hope for. The trade off is the very small loss of viscosity. Bear in mind that this is not a side by side comparison because I don't have two Niche grinders. But when my sons Niche arrives in a few weeks I'll ask him to bring it with him and run some side by sides with some Medium and Medium Light beans and will report back. The jury is out until then. Interested to know if anyone else has tried GG burrs.

Looking forward to a side by side comparison from you, I think it will be interesting and I'm sure more people will look at buying the burrs when they are more readily available. But for the price I guess people will have to see how well they work so I'm glad someone can do some testing for us

@"tompoland"#p34172 I'll be interested in the results Tom.

Appreciate its too early to say, Tom , but interested indeed your experience of these in a niche (which i have) vs olympia moca sd (whch i might buy…) Would be a lot cheaper to buy new burrs! Thanks

Very promising! Look forward to hearing about the results, conscious these will be primarily for espresso but any pour over comparisons would also be appreciated as I know people gave the Niche a hard time for the fines it created especially on lighter roasts.

I also ordered the Gorilla burrs. WEEKS ago! After numerous delays and extremely poor communication from Gorilla I'm expecting delivery tomorrow. So a week or so I'll have drawn some conclusions. I'm very interested to know your thoughts, @"tompoland"#121 !

@"tompoland"#121 Thanks for offering to complete the side by side tests, Tom. And looking forward to learning of your impressions, @"Grahamsphillips"#p34213 And anyone else.

@"TomR"#p34196 Tom I have poured a few shots from each grinder over the last two days, simply for when I have an espresso each morning. Bearing in mind that means an hour or two in between each grind so it's not a side by side comparison which I find is the best method for taste comparisons. So take this with a pinch of salt but at this stage it's a surprisingly close call to between them. I don't know what miracles John Gordon has worked with his GG conical burrs, but they are mighty impressive. As you know, I'm still to do side by side comparisons with another Niche so I'll add side by side comparisons with the Moca SD to the queue. Thanks for the idea, not sure why I didn't think of it. In the interests of setting a realistic time frame expectation, the Niche GG burrs to Niche Kony burrs comparison is still a few weeks away because I need to wait for my son's Niche to arrive (ETA two weeks) and then for him to come for a visit. But it will happen. For the Niche GG burrs to Moca SD, I can do that early next week when the beans I have resting are ready to go. I'll post back here.

> @"FadedFrontiers"#p34202 any pour over comparisons would also be appreciated sorry FF but I can't help you with that, I have not the faintest idea how to do a pour over or even what it should taste like. I could do something with the Gevi 4-1 that is collecting dust at the moment but to be quite honest, I'm the last person you should listen to on pour over. re pour over: @"lancehedrick"#742 are you in the building? You gotta gotta gotta try the John Gordon burrs.

Hi @"tompoland"#121 I believe @"lancehedrick"#742 is indeed expecting some of the GG burrs so it’ll be interesting to see his take esp as he’s not a fan of the NICHE with the stock burrs

@"Grahamsphillips"#p34236 good to know thanks GP. From memory (not always a good idea) Lance's main point in his "one year on" review was that the NZ was not the all rounder be-all-and-end-all grinder that some were making it out to be. The Kony burrs in the NZ are certainly proven performers for medium-dark and dark roasts. And when people add milk to those type of beans, they excell even more. But yes, it will be interesting to see his review. I'm loving the GG burrs but their arrival coincided with a new batch of beans so the beans may be a part of the difference I'm tasting. So I'm looking forward to getting a second NZ to run the side by side comparison with the same beans.

Gorilla Gear burrs in a Niche Zero

washed

He stated in his last email they are having some nasty weather and flooding. That might be affecting his ability to respond promptly.

tompoland

Pic of the two Niches. White with GG burrs and black with the standard Kony burrs.

I wish the results were as black and white as the grinders.

Unfortunately, due to time contraints I only had the chance to sample one side by side comparision and time was so limited that the grinders were not dialled close enough to each other.

While I detected a little more clarity and note/flavor seperation with the GG I need longer with both grinders to offer anything conclusive.

I’m going to run a more comrephensive comparision including a blind taste test when my son and his partner visit again but that could be a month or more. And if I can find a used Niche in good condition I may even buy it just so I have them both long enough for form an opinion that is conclusive.

Grahamsphillips

Aw shux! Anyone on the forum with a NICHE live in striking distance of St Albans (Herts) or North London who fancies a side by side comparison?

DavecUK

Grahamsphillips I’m 37 miles away (in Byfleet surrey) and happy to do some taste testing whenever you want. I have plenty of coffee, machines and a Niche Zero.

Grahamsphillips

tompoland just jump in the Lear jet and land on DavecUK helipad. Simples!

Grahamsphillips

That’s an offer I definitely can’t refuse! We’re away for a couple of weeks but I’ll be in touch on my return to receive the maestro’s instructions and insights!! @tompoland fancy a trip to Blighty? You can’t afford to miss this!!!

tompoland

Grahamsphillips I wish!

Amberale

Hitch a ride on a balloon?
There seem to be a few around.

tompoland

Amberale thought of that but at the rate that they get shot down….

DavecUK

tompoland thought of that but at the rate that they get shot down….

There was an elderly lady on the radio, said that she wondered if they were testing whether they could disperse biological warfare (or I suppose radiological) from those balloons. I was thinking about biological, may not be that effective, but there must be plenty of high radioactive short half life stuff that could be dispersed.

Grahamsphillips

Hi @tompoland Are you still playing with the NICHE and the GG burrs? I got fed up with them causing stalls so swapped back to the KONY’s.. no more stalls but I MUCH preferred the results with the GG burrs. Probs like you I’m awaiting delivery of the replacement-replacement GGs! Once I’ve broken them in I’ll pop round to see @DavecUK for “NICHES-at-Dawn” sho(o)t out! We’ll be pulling shots but not punches… !!

DavecUK

Grahamsphillips Once I’ve broken them in I’ll pop round to see @DavecUK for “NICHES-at-Dawn” sho(o)t out! We’ll be pulling shots but not punches… !!

You are always welcome Grahamsphillips You can try any of my Niche grinders and see how they compare.

tompoland

Grahamsphillips yes, I’ve been using is most days for medium roasts, anything lighter and it chokes. The replacement cone is on the way to I’ll swap it out and test with a light roast and see what happens. Has your replacedment shipped?

DavecUK

DavecUK @Grahamsphillips You can also try it against the P100 and see what you’re missing.

DavecUK

DavecUK You can also try out the Duo, as can anyone who wants to travel my way, Byfleet near Woking Surrey!

tompoland

DavecUK You can also try it against the P100 and see what you’re missing.

Tease.

Review coming?

DavecUK

tompoland Review coming?

I think it would just upset those few owners who bought one and not add much value to the very few people who are considering one. I think if people want one, nothing I say will make any difference. I might do a very quick mini run down on my personal take on it. I do know one thing, if someone gave me £3,000 to spend on grinder….I wouldn’t buy a P100.

Grahamsphillips

tompoland I’m in the same boat awaiting the replacement replacements!

MattH

Not sure I would ever spend 3k on a grinder period :)

DavecUK

MattH Not sure I would ever spend 3k on a grinder period :)

Yes, it’s a big stretch..I feel the same way, but if someone offered to buy me a 3Kish grinder…I wouldn’t pick the P100.

tompoland

DavecUK I wish! Very generous of you Dave.

DavecUK

Grahamsphillips I’m in the same boat awaiting the replacement replacements!

One thing that surprises me, how those burrs got through testing, and they didn’t know they were stalling?

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