Some time to launch! 😏

I see from the specs that it’s physically bigger than the Zero….assuming this is - at least in part - to house a bigger motor for the flats?

[unknown] Have you seen he full manual you can download and read ?

    Del_UK (why does the plug change colour 🤔???)

    Dunno? RH Lead swaps colour as well in the starting clip

    Can I chuck my hat into the ring?

    Right, first off, this is not an engineering review. I was lucky enough to be asked by Niche back in October, to accept the latest version of the Niche Duo. I had to sign an NDA and that was that. A couple of days later, a package turned up and I thought, I recognise that. On inspecting the packaging, it is quite clearly designed with the Zero experience in mind. The packaging has instructions printed on it for starters. Once you open the outer box, there is a strap/handle to help you lift the inner box meaning that you do not have to tip it upside down to force it out!

    I received a gleaming white model that arrived with espresso burrs fitted to it. A quick glance through the comprehensive handbook to make sure that there was nothing I needed to be aware of, and coffee here we come! When I dial in a new grinder, I always pull the first shot at whatever it arrives set to and take my reference from there. The third shot was spot on.

    16 gms on an espresso setting takes me 16 seconds. I did not suffer from any static, the grounds were nice and fluffy. I believe the burrs originate from Mazzer (both espresso and brewed).

    Eventually, I thought it was time to try swapping the burrs over. Again, no help from Niche. They selected me as tester for their idiots instructions, and I feel well qualified for that role. I have made a video that I will post and it took me 70 seconds or so to swap over. You raise the lid, unscrew the silver dial, remove the screw to tighten down the top burr set, then remove it. Push down on the bottom burr set and remove. The process is then repeated with the brewed burrs (these are a different colour, blue) in reverse of course.

    I am deliberately keeping this summary vague! I have no idea as to how they get a big flat to be retention free.  Having swapped the burrs over many times, and since access allows with ease, whenever I clean it out the retention is minimal. If I remember I will weigh it at some point but as any Niche Zero owners knows, you learn to trust your machine and just accept the claims!

      Del_UK because I have a white extension lead, which I took out of the vid 😂

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        I can see ebay being awash with commercial grinders which have been modded for a more home like single dosing experience.

        This would be perfect for me as I like simple solutions of it just working and doing a good job.

        Might bin my 064s and then look at the niche when I have finally got a espresso machine!

        @Cuprajake @dfk41 - so the million dollar question… for espresso, how does the Niche Zero compare to the Duo (using espresso burrs), taste wise? I’d be interested in your description of the same bean, brewed at the same ratio, over roughly the same time. What are the main differences taste wise?

          Well we both drink different stuff 🤣

          But I’ve said in the past how I find the zero a muddled grinder, it makes a good shot but it’s rounded and I struggle to pick apart a shot where the major and now duo give more clarity to the shot, the stock duo burrs are more balanced than the SSP were, they were bright, like they peaked the acidity with the sweetness following through.

          The duo is a big burr in a small package with all the plus points of the zero

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          dfk41 is there some fancy mechanism that does not require the bottom burr to be torqued? It seems like the effort to unscrew and screw it’s much easier than I am used to see at other grinders.

            Petre just like the zero. Hand tight

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