tompoland answering my own question and thanks @Redla for bringing me up to date.
As best I can tell it looks like mostly the same internals but a very different exterior (white metal and timber) and featuring an integrated scale, a cup warmer, 2 minute warm up time (not for the 110v version), lighting for the espresso cup area and a Samsung A7 tablet. All welcome improvements but nothing earth shattering enough to motivate me to upgrade.
Maybe if it looked like this?
From reading he wants to go commercial and do all the services etc. Not sure if true or not
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The Bengle wil be safety certified for commercial use. The other models are not.
dfk41 The whole influencer thing is a joke to begin with. Honestly who cares what others find works for them when every setup will vary in a different environment, various coffees being used, etc… If the social media garbage didn’t pay out in some way most of the videos would never exist as that’s the primary reason for it regardless of what some wanna claim.
One in particular was a product pimp for Breville, which is junk… as well as Baratza at one point, more junk… as well as Onxy Coffee which is over priced/hyped crap.
tompoland Extraordinary duo, bwahaha… Seems Gagne might be trying to incorporate a bit much on the scientific end and IMBHO coffee (especially espresso) is the same as roasting in that it’s ⅓ skill, ⅓ art form and ⅓ science. Maybe he should stick with boring astrophysics as coffee is far more involved!
Regarding Rao, never been impressed with his style of roasting or arrogance… to each their own obviously as I’ll never get caught up following the typical (usually short lived) fad.
Regarding the Decent as the thread suggests, maybe one day they will actually get the thing maxed out and performing to the claimed/expected standards. Never used one and have no intention, but what I’ve read from plenty of users is it’s more of a jack of all trades, but clearly master of none.
JonWoo187 Never used one and have no intention
Yes I find this the best of all ways to form a reasoned opinion.
Joking aside, surely we are better on this forum than just regurgitating whatever third-hand information has slopped into our echo chamber? Let’s keep on topic.
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Something has been happening recently on another forum, and similar has happened in the past from the same manufacturer. Where a customer has not only been treated shabbily, but the manufacturer has gone out of their way to blame the customer. This prompted me to say…the Decent sales experience seems a good one, John works very hard to ensure customer satisfaction.
Yeah I don’t mind john as a manufacturer, very open and honest, always looking to improve and the decent vids are some of the best manufacturer vids out there, lelit insider is another good channel
I find it odd more manufacturer dont do it.
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tompoland Yep, no fanboy here
Real time manual adjustment of pressure or flow by tapping the group head. A bit of a party trick, not sure I’d ever use it.
tompoland Real time manual adjustment of pressure or flow by tapping the group head. A bit of a party trick, not sure I’d ever use it.
I use it quite a lot when initially dialling in a new bean Tom. I don’t always know the grind size required on the Niche to get a tasty shot with the correct flow rate on the first go. With the manual flow control I can get it pretty much dialled in by watching the flow rate, and will adjust the profile or grind setting afterwards to fine tune it.
Generally though I agree, the DE1 is automated enough that once a bean is dialled, you get exactly what you’ve requested every time.
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Like Tom, when I watched the video I couldn’t see myself using it.
However, the case use you suggested seems ideal. Thanks for sharing.
JammyDodger ooh that’s very useful to know. great tip thanks JD.
Just watched this - interesting for me in that its the first time I have seen the machine unpacked and setup.
Have to say very impressed - liked the case and how it was packed. Also like the ceramics used for the drip tray and tank. Also liked the clear see through look - I would think it woudl be useful to keep an eye on the system without dismantling.
There a machine that has always intrigued me, but I’ve never pulled the trigger on one
I’ve read loads of positive and negatives but that goes for any machine.
Just the noise that does me in haha
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MattH Decent is the only machine I’d like if not using levers.
Had the DE1XL for three years now. Lots of other espresso machines have come and gone around it. It can be as simple or as complex as you want to make it. They are a very well thought out machine.
Access to presets/recipes from an active community of espresso obsessed nerds to sample on demand at the push of a button is pretty cool.
There is no “best” machine out there, but the Decent is certainly my favourite.
At this time the likely replacement for my Sage Dual Boiler is a Decent.
My only concerns are longevity. I’m pretty sure a Bianca for example will be serviceable for 10 years plus but will Decent be around then? Probably and if not I believe a lot of components are off the shelf.
A couple of questions I had for existing users is:
Thanks in advance!
Chriss29 My only concerns are longevity. I’m pretty sure a Bianca for example will be serviceable for 10 years plus but will Decent be around then? Probably and if not I believe a lot of components are off the shelf.
So far, so good. Five years in the wild and very few issues reported. John Buckman has been pretty fussy about component quality.
