Hi, Surprisingly little discussion on any forum but it seems Mazzer are about to drop 2 new grinders and they are drip feeding hints/pics each day until a show in mid october. I wonder if this is the next home step after the handgrinders ? The cannot believe they need to add any further commercial machines to the range.

MattH I shall be there, so will definitely dropping into the Mazzer stand to take some photos and video.

New Mazzer Grinders

Jcheney

Is this first Mazzer to hold the portafilter like shown, and fully support it? My guess is that they have added grind by weight, which would require that the portafilter’s weight is supported. Grind by weight is in vogue and adds a feature which relies on relatively inexpensive components (particularly as they already have a microcontroller).

DavecUK

Jcheney Gring by weight is in vogue and adds a feature which relies on relatively inexpensive components (particularly as they already have a microcontroller).

The problem is that for the home market, that bird has flown…probably 7 years ago. It’s all about single dosing now, not a hopper full of beans. Commercially, purchasers couldn’t care less about grind by weight.

MediumRoastSteam

DavecUK Commercially, purchasers couldn’t care less about grind by weight.

Ive seen plenty of (trendy) coffee shops weighing the beans these days. SO maybe there’s still a market for it.

MattH

I am guessing these will be for the home Market - hence the drip feed hype 😂

MWJB

Burr shown in the photo looks like a Mahlkonig Guatemala style brew burr?

InfamousTuba

GbW is still desirable in commercial settings, the workflow is better and faster than weighing out separately (although slower than just using a timed dose and not weighing it) also it takes up less space than having a separate large scale.

Hopefully mazzer can come in at a good price point and stack up well compared to something like the mahlkonig E80GbW

DavecUK

InfamousTuba Hopefully mazzer can come in at a good price point

Unlikely!

MattH

So mazzer enter the single dosing flat burr market…..

Cannot wait to see where they price this as its a crowded field !

MWJB

MattH So mazzer enter the single dosing flat burr market…..

Again…., no one remember the ZM? (Ha, David beat me to it!)

MattH

Looks like a zerno/timemore mazzer….

https://www.mazzer.com/en/product/philos/

BrewLiam

MattH looks like the page is down. Maybe a mistake. Image still comes up on google though - https://images.app.goo.gl/5jg1HpjdobhqoChM8

MattH

I read the pdf brochure - should downloaded it 😂

Try this

https://www.mazzer.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/depliant-Philos-2023-ENG-WEB.pdf?x32639

BrewLiam

MattH I like the look of this and having read the PDF I understand the placement of the adjustment dial. But, so odd this being at the back when in a normal home set up that will likely be against a wall or under a cabinet.

Dusk

Page not found, they’re on to you!

MattH

See link above 😂

dfk41

The ZM did not seem to be that well received

Jcheney

Are these both new models? EDIT: No, looked at their PDF upload dates: uploaded in 2021. I just was not familiar with them..

ZM plus

Super Jolly V Up

I don’t recall seeing either.

MattH

Lots of videos of the Philos now on insta etc..

Its beautifully made but seems (to me) to be huge.. it has a built in knocker and small brush to get it all out.

Just waiting to hear the price as tbh it does nothing a niche or timemore does not do (maybe even less as its not variable rpm for example) . Interested to see where mazzer position this against the other options and their own more commercial grinders.

MattH

Just watched a live mazzer session…

Nice to see they were using the Micra for their demos 😂

They classed it as a light commercial (high end home) - so price will be high imho.

Its well made - and put together - lots of magnets and only 2 screws to be undone to get at the burrs. Sounds pretty quiet even when grinding - though a exhibition hall is probably not the best place to evaluate that.

I did notice that in all the demos so far they start the motor before opening the chute to feed the beans in. They also said it was rated for 2kg a day

HarveyMushman

This is super exciting for me.

2 burr options (high clarity / full body, both brew/espresso capable).

Burr removal without changing grind settings.

Hybrid stepped/stepless is a great idea.

It’ll be built like an absolute tank.

Awaiting price!

2kg a day feels very low for any commercial use so I’m guessing positioning it as such allows them to price it higher than domestic offerings.