Dusk £365 so it’s not far off double for the Niche.
Maybe there is a reason for that price difference?
DF64 Gen 2
Dusk Maybe, maybe not. Maybe a bit, maybe not all.
There are differences
- declared value (VAT impact)
- Tax location of company
- Special subsidised shipping rate (perversely, subsidised by our taxes)
- long term support
- Market dumping
If the Chinese keep on, eventually there won’t be any bricks and mortar retailers left and the only place to buy a grinder will be online from China….which would be a very bad thing for the consumer.
DavecUK eventually there won’t be any bricks and mortar retailers left and the only place to buy a grinder will be online from China….which would be a very bad thing for the consumer.
Appreciate Niche is a British company. But essentially… we are buying it online, and from China. Maybe they keep some stock in the UK, I don’t know. But the point being is that it boils down to money at the end of the day. One could argue it would benefit the UK economy if they had a factory here, but then it would be very unlikely they would be able to sell for the prices they do.
MediumRoastSteam But essentially… we are buying it online, and from China
Don’t be daft! You are buying it online, direct from the company that manufacture and designed it, and supply a fantastic warranty. China assemble it and have no other input. If you were buying direct from a Chinese based company and it goes wrong, what do you think would happen
dfk41 - I get it. But we are buying a fantastic product online and from china, are we not ? Or did you go to a bricks and mortar shop to buy yours? 😉
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MediumRoastSteam Appreciate Niche is a British company. But essentially… we are buying it online, and from China. Maybe they keep some stock in the UK, I don’t know.
You are buying online from the UK and from a UK company who pays taxes and VAT as appropriate in the UK. In Europe or other countries local VAT and Taxes are paid by individuals as there is no under declaration. Also your consumer rights are maintained. It is a very different business model to the Chinese grinder company (ies). These companies rely on people not realising this.
MediumRoastSteam I went to the Niche UK based online store. Niche sell in the UK and across the world so all sales pay into the UK economy in one way or another. So, presuming the building Niche store their stock in is built from bricks and mortar, then you have answered your own, not so clever question
I’m still confused. What if I stocked lots of the same Chinese made grinders, built a nice and polished website, paid all my UK taxes and offered a two year no quibbles guarantee? Would that be acceptable?
MediumRoastSteam I’m still confused. What if I stocked lots of the same Chinese made grinders, built a nice and polished website, paid all my UK taxes and offered a two year no quibbles guarantee? Would that be acceptable?
Perfectly, but that is not the Chinese way of doing things
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dfk41 - understood. However, the company in question here according to this post:
Dusk It’s not too dissimilar in the UK depending on where you buy from. The Duo is £658 from Niche but the DF64 gen2 can be had from df64coffee for £365 so it’s not far off double for the Niche.
Is an American Singaporean distributor. Not a Chinese company.
So I’m still confused. Honestly.
MediumRoastSteam df64coffee is based in Singapore and has a regional distribution license. Each region has a different distributor. In the US the distributor is Turin Grinders but Espresso Outlet may have a license too. Not sure. It may be that the US is such a bit market that there is more than one distributor. Here in Australia it’s Coffee Tech.
Also I think ‘Niche’ is considered the ‘Apple’ of the coffee world …. While the DF line would be considered the Android equivalent….
Being the ‘Apple’ in the coffee world means they charge whatever the hell they like and ppl will still buy
tompoland David, with respect, that comment needs moderating. I’m sure you have a basis for that comment but it’s at the very least out of date and at the other end of the spectrum it could be construed as racist, which I am genuinely sure was not your intention.
Bollocks Tom……please do not play that card. I am free to say what I think. If you are in the UK which we are, and someone bought a grinder direct from a Chinese company, then unless they pay the cost of return postage on behalf of the client it would simply not be feasible
drdre89 Being the ‘Apple’ in the coffee world means they charge whatever the hell they like and ppl will still buy
So do you think Niche overcharge then? The Zero stayed the same price from launch until earlier this year. Odd hey
tompoland df64coffee is based in Singapore
Thanks for correcting me. Got distracted even though it’s written quite clearly it’s based in Singapore in the link I referred. (Original post corrected for clarity)