hello, As per my intro post, I have been using the SB express for the past 18 months (first machine) and now looking to upgrade, yesterday I ordered the DF64 gen2 so that will be my grinder and the machine I was looking at is the Bianca v3. Should I be considering anything else? usage wise I drink 1-3 cups a day, a mix of milk based and espresso. Needs to be either white or black and my upper budget is £2500, happy to buy second hand if a decent saving is made but I am in no rush to panic buy. Despite already watching 100s of hours of YouTube videos and reading forums I am trying really hard not to turn this into a new "hobby" 🙄😂 I am terrible at going and fast into a new hobby. I just want something that produces good espresso and cappuccino that won't need me wanting another upgrade in 2 years. Thank you :) 😂

If you want a Bianca, there is one for sale by @"Cuprajake"#144. https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/2072-lelit-bianca-v3-in-black-niche-zero-force-tamper-other-bits/24

Welcome that's a healthy budget, definitely Acs lever or vesuvius. I had Standard Vostok wish didn't sell times was hard. If they did a manual 1g that would be my purchase. Do not use any other company because the support on here is big. But it's your choice. But ECM, are good go have a look on Bella barista. Jon.

2500 will get you a new black or white Bianca, poss into one of the ECM in that colour @"Jony"#853 the acs are over £3k now pal I have my black Bianca for sale which is 5months old. That would save you £500.

@"Arron24"#p57678 Insured DPD may still work out cheaper. :-)

@"Arron24"#p57678 what part of Cornwall. 😎

Upgrade advice please

Cuprajake

2500 will get you a new black or white Bianca, poss into one of the ECM in that colour

@Jony the acs are over £3k now pal

I have my black Bianca for sale which is 5months old. That would save you £500.

Arron24

Cuprajake hi Jake, i saw your sale post went it went up. The problem is i am in cornwall 🙄

Jony

Cuprajake thanks not much of a increase then 10% not even that. Ohh well it’s a bit 25%😂just done some shit math 😂

mkelly789

Arron24 Exciting times ahead! Out of curiosity, what options were you considering for the grinder and what made you go with the DF64?

I’m in a similar situation myself and back and forth between DF64 and Niche. I’m mainly an Espresso drinker with “medium” roasts and the occasional flat white. Upgrade options on the DF64 are appealing but the Niche seems pretty consistent across the board.

Arron24

mkelly789 the niche was the original choice based on reviews and aesthetics.

Then after the reviews for the DF gen2 i decided to go ahead with that, to be honest im not sure my taste buds are up to much so “good” will be good enough for me 🤣

LMSC

Arron24 Insured DPD may still work out cheaper. :-)

Jony

Arron24 what part of Cornwall. 😎

Cuprajake

Most people arena million miles away from me 😂😂

Arron24

Jony just outside St Austell 🏄‍♂️

Jony

Arron24 OK well all my kids live there I moved back up here 2 years ago.

Arron24

To throw a spanner in the works ACS can deliver a V10 for a fraction more (£2650) than a bianca.

What are peoples opinion? Coming from my BE i think i will be more than happy with either machine but having never used anything else im going to ask for help 🤣

DavecUK

Arron24 To throw a spanner in the works ACS can deliver a V10 for a fraction more (£2650) than a bianca.

What are peoples opinion? Coming from my BE i think i will be more than happy with either machine but having never used anything else im going to ask for help 🤣

It’s a mature machine, but does work well and component quality is good. Ifr it’s only a little more than a Bianca as @Jony said….get it. It’s also quite temperature and accurate/stable, according to my Scace II

Jony

Get it

Jony

My old one

Arron24

DavecUK Thank you for the input, unfortunately i hadnt realised the quote did not include customs/VAT so that pushes it to £3200 (same as if purchased in the UK) i will keep it in mind in case one comes up for sale on the classifieds :)