Lelit Bianca vs. Elizabeth 10 cappuccino

TobiasKolb

ONE Question: although the facts will speak for the Bianca - which machine can do more cappuccino in a row? The winner has to be the Bianca with its much bigger boiler! But is that true? Is it possible, that the small boiler of the Elizabeth is faster in relation?
SO: If you had to do 10 Cappuccino, which of these two machine would you use?

DavecUK

I have both and because I am lazy, I would use whichever machine was switched on. I don’t think it will matter, unless you are very fast at making drinks, even then, it will be difficult to go faster than the machine can reheat the boilers.

e.g. after a boiler refill when steaming, the small amount of cold water introduced will probably be ready by the time you have, weighed, ground, tamped and pulled your shot…..approximately 60 seconds, if you are quick.

MediumRoastSteam

Dave is right. I don’t think it should be a consideration if that’s a one off event now and then. I never tried, but I made 3 cappuccinos in a row with the Elizabeth without issue. However, what I notice is that the rebound time (until the temp goes back to the set temp on the display) is around 1 minute after steaming - you can even steam and pull at the same time.

So, as long as you pace yourself accordingly, it should be no problem. If you want to go faster, maybe you’ll have to look elsewhere.

If this was a daily occurrence, I’d go for the Bianca. Or… Just buy a box standard HX machine (ECM, Profitec) and save the money. After all, that’s what they are designed for.

TobiasKolb

MediumRoastSteam

what do you exactly mean with box standard HX machine? Which of these models can do that?

Cuprajake

If your bianca money then paulo has just put the Vesuvius down to 1990 inc del

Thats a deal id of been very tempted with

Grif

Cuprajake If your bianca money then paulo has just put the Vesuvius down to 1990 inc del

Wouldn’t you get stung for import duty on that?

MediumRoastSteam

TobiasKolb - What I am saying is, If you want to pull 10 shots and steam 10 milks in a row, you might not need the benefit of a dual boiler machine. Instead, an ordinary HX exchange machine, like the Pro-500 (there are others) might do the trick. A cooling flush at the start, pull shot, steam milk in parallel (or not) and then repeat 10 times. Once you learn the workflow, it should be temp stable for that session.

Cuprajake

Or a minima in the middle

DavecUK

Cuprajake Or a minima in the middle

LMSC

As Jake advised, I were to spend money on Bianca, Vesuvius is the one I will get. 😊

LMSC

Grif Email him and ask. He will give you a complete break down.

HVL87

Minima has a bigger service boiler than the Bianca and Vesuvius. I would get that if you want steaming horsepower!

After steaming 200ml of milk I am back up to 130C in a few seconds. Even an auto fill doesn’t really slow it down.