My first post on this forum… I have an existing set of 83mm SSP HU burrs and a Niche Duo which arrives tomorrow. Do I stick with the stock Mazzer Espresso burrs, or install the SSPs? Obviously, the SSP HUs are already seasoned, but if there's no real difference, I believe they'll have a better resale value than the stock Mazzers. Please help!😳

@"PianoMan"#p69083 - You can always try it... Just be warned that this would invalidate the warranty....

minute differenece, depends if you're used to them, you can forget taste quite quickly, try the duo first as is, adding ssp will need a recalibration

Val[URL=https://i.imgur.com/MHPRmvi.jpeg][IMG]https://i.imgur.com/MHPRmvi.jpeg[/IMG][/URL] Calibration is it!

> @"MediumRoastSteam"#p69095 You can always try it… Just be warned that this would invalidate the warranty…. Only if you tell them @"PianoMan"#p69102 That looks fine, I wouldn't bother trying to calibrate (trust me on this). The more important thing is centering the burrs in the carriers top/bottom as the SSP burrs are slightly smaller in diameter. SSPs are approx 88.65 mm, Mazzer burrs are pretty much 83mm

@"DavecUK"#p69104 [URL=https://i.imgur.com/wn4of0e.jpeg][IMG]https://i.imgur.com/wn4of0e.jpeg[/IMG][/URL] That's as close as I got. Fine by me. I noticed there was a little bit of horizontal play. (and it's been a while since I've seen any horizontal play) 😂 I think my first coffee tasted of dry markers. 😉

> @"PianoMan"#p69107 I think my first coffee tasted of dry markers. 😉 Was that in the tasting notes? 🤪

@"Doram"#p69138 😄Might as well have, considering how much I know about such things.

@"PianoMan"#p69083 just of curiosity, why would you change the burrs so quick without trying the stock Mazzer burrs on the Niche?

@"profesor_historia"#p69191 That's a good question. My SSP HU burrs produced great-tasting coffee on my previous grinder, the DF83. In fact, I only changed that grinder because it was occasionally inconsistent and frustrating to use. I, therefore, assumed they would work in the Duo, and give me the same, but more consistent cup. I left the Mazzer burrs as new to sell. In retrospect, this was a mistake, but then, we all make 'em. 😉 I still had to align the Mazzers. They were surprisingly quite misaligned.

> @"PianoMan"#p69193 I still had to align the Mazzers. They were surprisingly quite misaligned. How do you align the burrs on the Duo?

Niche Duo arrives tomorrow. Should I fit my old SSP HU burrs, or sell them?

Adrianmsmith

PianoMan

According to our Friend, here on the forum, decent is not worthy anymore…… that was last years story .

Sorry in advance 🤭🎯

PianoMan

Adrianmsmith 😨 perhaps I’ll get a Rocket Apartmento TCA and a car, for a similar price 🤣

Adrianmsmith

PianoMan

I couldn’t believe this was being marketed by him as home gear. Shows how far from reality they now live.

PianoMan

Adrianmsmith I am curious to what the markup is on this machine. 😅 I’m fairly sure the coffee won’t taste 17 times the quality of a shot from a Silvia. Surely diminishing returns became not returns around the, say 5,000 mark. 😨

DavecUK

PianoMan I am curious to what the markup is on this machine. 😅 I’m fairly sure the coffee won’t taste 17 times the quality of a shot from a Silvia. Surely diminishing returns became not returns around the, say 5,000 mark. 😨

I am curious whether it comes supplied with his grandmother.

PianoMan

I know it’s an old thread, but I recently installed the DLC Espresso burrs (as found in the DF83V) in my Niche Duo. They seem to be a better fit than my other third party burrs(SSP HU) and are a genuine improvement over the stock Mazzers.

Adrianmsmith

Theres no old threads on here; its just some are less active than others 🙃

What constitutes improvement.

Quieter?

Heavier?

More clarity?

Better in the cup because….. ?

PianoMan

Adrianmsmith

Good questions….

Quieter? About the same, maybe a little faster.

Heavier? Not sure what that one means.

More clarity? Yes! I it’s a less muddled brew. Certainly with the medium roast beans I’ve been using.

Better in the cup because….. Taste!

There is more retention, now, by about 0.1g, but I’m okay with that considering the improvement in taste. I tried the SSP HU a few weeks ago, and preferred the stock Mazzers, but that might be because the grinder was new. These DLC burrs seem to work well with the Duo.

Adrianmsmith

PianoMan Quieter? About the same, maybe a little faster.

Heavier? Not sure what that one means.

these were rather tongue in cheek!!

sorry for the sarcasm!!

dfk41

I would leave the stock burrs in until you have at least tried them as you maybe surprised!

PianoMan

dfk41 You’re quite right! I ran them for about a month and they were very reasonable. Someone said the machine was built around those burrs and I can believe that. However, I had the DLC Espresso burrs to hand, thought I’d try them and they seem to produce a better brew. Good enough for me to ignore the extra retention.

PianoMan

Adrianmsmith Well, now I feel stupid.

Adrianmsmith

PianoMan

Sorry its just me.

I have a “thing” about machine A or machine B simply being Better.

Without understanding what better means to you its just different in some way. It could just be the colour on the TiN is nice so it muse be “better” 🤡

Or its heavier, so that has to be good….. to some people!!

Its a bit like HiFi; weight to some people is a measure of sound quality!!

Unfortunately with text comments its easy for a haha to come over as a dig. ☕

PianoMan

Adrianmsmith Ah, I see. In this instance, as I was referring to burrs, and when I said an improvement over stock, I meant in flavour. Never mind.

JimmyP

PianoMan Surely you try both and take it from there?

PianoMan

JimmyP I did try the Mazzers for a month. They’re very good, but prefer the DLC’s. I didn’t do an A/B comparison, and only tried the DLC’s out of curiosity (I had them lying around… Long story), but honestly, it’s a better brew.👍

Adrianmsmith

PianoMan

Are they a direct replacement without gaskets etc?……

PianoMan

Nope just a straight swap. No rubbery additions. I would say they were very similar in dimensions. The grinding is now much faster than with the Mazzers. I’m not sure if that’s a good thing or not, though. There is more retention on the DLC’s. (about 0.1-0.2g) That doesn’t bother me, but it might some.

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