49mm better than 58mm?

dang2484

drdre89 I would like to try it, I find shots in my la marzocco 7g baskets are better than standard doubles and I had a la Spaziale years ago that I struggled to pull a bad shot with but the 200 pound price tag is off putting!

Fingers crossed for the Chinese! 🤞

drdre89

By adding the spring into the equation, I noticed it adds about 10 seconds to the shot time. Due to the compression of the puck which takes the water longer to flow through. Still I’ve had no channeling.

I was actually grinding too coarse before as the spring was confusing me with the shot time, so I went finer and now am getting tasty shots without being too ‘bright’.

Am also using a paper filter.

dang2484

This is weird! Only mentioned this the other day and been using a 7g single La Marzocco baskets for years.

I think a lot of it is industry and driving consumption as well. Why use 7g grams for shots when you can use 18g + and double your money. Plus to mention the addiction factor, the more caffeine you use the more people need!

MediumRoastSteam

dang2484 - not necessarily. I for instance like a bigger cup of coffee, and like more volume as an espresso.

Of course, some people have the luxury to drink coffee all day long, frequently, so pulling single shots is great. I don’t have that luxury, so a bigger drink for me wins.

Raja123

dang2484 I currently use a single basket for dark roasts - especially if I’m running a hopper of supermarket beans (M&S). The lowish extraction actually does “justice” to them. Cheap, and typical flavor profile you’d get from a reasonable cafe. :D

Adrianmsmith

Raja123 if I’m running a hopper of supermarket beans

Oh no, no, no 😎🫣🤣

Heinz baked beans on toast: yes.

Coffee: fresh beans at least please ☕🤔😋

dang2484

Raja123 that’s a fine line, but least they’re M&S! 😂

Easy to over extract a dark roast which maybe a double shots doesn’t help with.

Cuprajake

Never got on with supermarket beans,

Raja123

Cuprajake handy for relatives that I don’t want to give my best beans to. To tame the flavor, single basket and right grinder is a must. Hopper on Bentwood V63 ensures packed prebreaker chamber, leading to a very coarse grind. Low extraction basket keeps the harsh notes out. Works remarkably well. I pick bags that have 15-months remaining on the best before date also.

Raja123

Adrianmsmith there are a lot of vested interests in most narratives. Can be okay to find out for yourself sometimes.

LMSC

Raja123 handy for relatives that I don’t want to give my best beans to. ….Hopper on Bentwood V63 ….Works remarkably well.

I am pleased we don’t have relatives in the UK. 😀

Cuprajake

Different strokes n all

I always have a Brazilian in stock as thats what the mrs drinks, so have a kilo in always

Raja123

dang2484 the benefit of the single basket is I don’t have to change temps and can still pull a 1:2. The Italian cafes do pretty well out of all this, so I dug into things and found a solution I can use for visitors and the occasional dark brew for myself, heh.

Pompeyexile

Just out of interest I wondered with all this 49mm talk. I have a ROK which has a 49mm portafilter. Does that count? Or because being manual I assume it can’t guarantee a constant 9 bar pressure, it is not worth trying?

Raja123

Pompeyexile Depending on the size of the basket (dose), I’d probably use it for dark roasts because less preheating required.

dang2484

Pompeyexile from my understanding, it’s the same thing so you’re already getting the potential benefits 😉

As for pressure, I wouldn’t worry too much as a declining pressure is beneficial especially for darker roasts but I might be corrected! 😅

drdre89

We going to be going down to 15mm portafilters soon that are 10cm deep

Adrianmsmith

drdre89

And then someone will invent something to clean it as well!!!

Raja123

drdre89 49mm strikes a very good balance for me. Not too high on acid even with ultra-lights roasted to 11% WL, and good body even at 12-14g doses.

woodymogs

Looks like there’s a UK basket on Kickstarter for what would seem to me to be a very reasonable price (£15 for the basket or £29 with a tamper and funnel).

Adrianmsmith

woodymogs Looks like there’s a UK basket on Kickstarter for what would seem to me to be a very reasonable price (£15 for the basket or £29 with a tamper and funnel).

A link might help

This one?

Only good for you 58mm guys!!

Sweet and full-bodied espresso MOD, via @Kickstarter

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